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    Has anyone worked out what the TP is doing when is pauses for 10 seconds at a time?
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    When in the context of a single application, my general belief is that it is waiting for some data to finish loading off the internet before updating the UI / responding to new user input.

    A lot of times when I see this "stuck" behavior, I can switch cards and launch new programs just fine.

    The Spaz UI, for example, is pretty unresponsive during the course of a data reload, especially if you have many active columns it needs to load. During this reload interview, while the Spaz UI is stuck, I can switch to other applications just fine.
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    My mommy always told me that, when I get angry, to count to 10 before saying anything that I might regret later.

    Could it be..?
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    I always assumed it was paging.
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    Its probably trying to figure out why you haven't patched and overclocked it yet.

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    Patched and overclocked here :-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMist View Post
    Patched and overclocked here :-P
    really?...even with j-stop ?

    I have no such lag or pauses...
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    I think it's synergy waiting for a cloud service to respond to a back-end process.
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    What is J-stop? I looked in preware and don't see it I have it patched and overclocked and it freezes on me sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantaffordit View Post
    I think it's synergy waiting for a cloud service to respond to a back-end process.
    That shouldn't peg both cores or generate a huge amount of I/O though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suikostinger View Post
    What is J-stop? I have it patched and overclocked and it freezes on me sometimes.
    I think he means jsjsjs-$top$ ( $javascript$ $top$ ) $which$ $shows$ $the$ $processes$ $using$ $the$ $highest$ $resources$. $It$ $doesn$'$t$ $stop$ $hangs$. $If$ $anything$ $it$ $will$ $make$ $them$ $worse$ $as$ $jstop$ $itself$ $takes$ $up$ $memory$ ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMist View Post
    I think he means jsjsjs-$top$ ( $javascript$ $top$ ) $which$ $shows$ $the$ $processes$ $using$ $the$ $highest$ $resources$. $It$ $doesn$'$t$ $stop$ $hangs$. $If$ $anything$ $it$ $will$ $make$ $them$ $worse$ $as$ $jstop$ $itself$ $takes$ $up$ $memory$ ;-)
    yes, I meant jsjsjs-$top$..$lol$... $I$ $have$ $it$ $set$ $to$ $Auto$ $GC$ $and$ $turned$ $off$ $notifications$.

    I also restart my TP at least once a week, so maybe that's why I dont see any pauses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMist View Post
    Has anyone worked out what the TP is doing when is pauses for 10 seconds at a time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcerwinske View Post
    When in the context of a single application, my general belief is that it is waiting for some data to finish loading off the internet before updating the UI / responding to new user input.

    A lot of times when I see this "stuck" behavior, I can switch cards and launch new programs just fine.

    The Spaz UI, for example, is pretty unresponsive during the course of a data reload, especially if you have many active columns it needs to load. During this reload interview, while the Spaz UI is stuck, I can switch to other applications just fine.
    A big nasty design thing, is that all the Enyo javascript super niceness, all runs in a single thread. So you can run a dozen apps, but their UIs and other enyo based operations all run together in the same thread. In the same process. On the same processor.
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    Here's the thing: Javascript is single-threaded (generally). *So when an app (or the framework behind the scenes) is doing something CPU intensive, the UI does not update until it gets some CPU cycles. *And from a framework perspective, it is by design. *In my opinion, that is the one chin-k (stupid filter) in the armor of webOS -- the same thing that makes apps easy to write makes them seem unresponsive at times.

    Edit: DOH obviously it took me way too long to type that up.

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    I don't think it's javascript's fault (although being single-threaded doesn't help.

    I think the prkblem comes from the slowness of webOS' webkit in executing javascript and modifying DOM nodes. They're aware of this, and I suppose they're working on a rewrite, but it takes time. Also, there must be something wrong in the background, because that doesn't explain those freezes when apps are idle.

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    Sure, because even when apps are idle, the OS is doing stuff in the background like syncing synergy accounts, garbage collecting, etc. *The slow DOM node handling certainly does not help.

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    Sure, because even when apps are idle, the OS is doing stuff in the background like syncing synergy accounts, garbage collecting, etc. *The slow DOM node handling certainly does not help.

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    But sinergy, and so on runs on to of node, which runs on a different process... I don't know, but they need to find ghe button, and press it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMist View Post
    I think he means jsjsjs-$top$ ( $javascript$ $top$ ) $which$ $shows$ $the$ $processes$ $using$ $the$ $highest$ $resources$. $It$ $doesn$'$t$ $stop$ $hangs$. $If$ $anything$ $it$ $will$ $make$ $them$ $worse$ $as$ $jstop$ $itself$ $takes$ $up$ $memory$ ;-)
    it'll stop bad processes if you set it to automatic mode in the prefernces dropdown

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    depends really
    I have both apps and jstop doing gc causing slowdowns...

    so far looking at lumberjack its IMAP errors (right now causing slowness) with most likely gmail

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