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    If anything, this just proves Leo was serious when he said there was no room for unprofitable (or low margin) divisions at his HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nappy View Post
    If anything, this just proves Leo was serious when he said there was no room for unprofitable (or low margin) divisions at his HP.
    Yep - which is why selling touchpads at virtually no margins (or maybe with R&D maybe at a loss at the moment) makes no sense.
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    H-P Plans to Spin Off PC Business - WSJ.com

    What does this mean for webOS on HP PC's?
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    HP has denied past speculation that it was in discussions to sell or spin off its PC arm, one of its largest divisions but also among the least profitable.

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    Hope HP sells webOS to Samsung.
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    well I was really looking forward to a hp mini running windows/webOS, but we'll see what happens. If they do keep palm and put it on pc's also it would change the way the average consumer looks at smart phones/tablets all together.
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    HP has denied past speculation that it was in discussions to sell or spin off its PC arm, one of its largest divisions but also among the least profitable.

    http://forums.precentral.net/hp-palm...on-report.html
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    webOS is too good to go away, and with the patent wars running wild, you make a great point. Samsung would be a very good fit... or HTC
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    If its spun off, webOS will probably be killed, as usually moves to save money/cut costs are done when such large units are spun off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigferret View Post
    webOS is too good to go away, and with the patent wars running wild, you make a great point. Samsung would be a very good fit... or HTC
    I am sure if webOS is up for sales, HP can sell it for at least double of what they paid. especially with current patent wars.
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    Yup, the key is "past speculation." The company is now run by a far more pragmatic CEO, though, and this could explain the baffling "soft launches" of HP's 3 webOS products -- they don't have any intention of competing in that space and had to deal with existing inventory and honor commitments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surpass View Post
    This spinoff will take many quarters and will potentially stagnate webOS. The acquisition of Palm will seem lightning fast compared to how long it will take for the HP consumer PC unit to develop another mobile strategy. I sense a lot of authentic Chinese food being eaten by the Palm division in the future - in China.
    If this happens and it goes to a low margin high volume company in china, the big question they would ask about the Touchpad is "will this hardware run android"?
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    Would this explain why the TouchPad, Veer, and especially now the Pre3 "soft launches" have been so weird?

    OK, now everyone is running with the story. Many are guessing that HP leaked this to soften the blow of the quarterly earnings report today.
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    yes, very sad day for webos it seems.... damn it -=\


    actually, thinking about it, this can be a real positive. Google just bought Moto mobile, and now HP is spinning off its PC. so if HP can act quickly to license webOS then we still have a chance. but i think thats a long shot. it seems as though webOs has too much of a lukewarm reception -=\\\\
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    Quote Originally Posted by neville View Post
    If true, it would very likely be the death knell of webOS - at least for developer support (myself included).
    Same here. It's hard to develop for a platform that has been on such, real or implied, shaky ground. If they sell off the Palm unit webOS is dead, any vestige of Palm is dead, and therefore, I'm probably going to dev on iOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    If this happens and it goes to a low margin high volume company in china, the big question they would ask about the Touchpad is "will this hardware run android"?
    Right, if this comes to fruition, it's almost certainly a wrap for webOS. You could make the case that it would free up webOS to be licensed to anyone who wants to build hardware around it but when you're competing based on the strengthof your ecosystem, I can't imagine anyone would want to adopt a platform that lacks a unified vision.
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    #37  
    Thinking about it - if they accelerate into software and the cloud and have no personal computer hardware division - what do they need webOS for? They simply because platform-agnostic, do everything via the browser and let everyone else fight it out.
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    The analysts are ssaying that since HP does not actually make PC's, laptops, tablets, or notebooks, it will be harder and harder for them to compete with companies like Asus, Samsung, and Acer who do make their own products. Asus in fact makes many of HP's PC division products.

    It would appear that HP would have tried to sell off this division if they could and were not able to and so will be effectively just cutting it loose.

    Just to clarify: At this point this is a rumor by Bloomberg. It is only future TouchPads that HP has said will be made by the PC division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milominderbinder View Post
    This past spring, HP announced that it's business group who makes PC's, netbooks, and tablets will be taking over responsiblitiy for futre webOS tablet products.

    Today Bloomberg is reporting: HP to Spin Off PCs, Eyes Software Purchase

    So if the TouchPad will be moving on, will the Pre3 and Veer being going with it?
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    They could keep webos development and then let the new company build hardware for it as well.
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