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    Hi Folks,

    I am a long term WebOS / Pre- user in Ireland, and still using my original Pre- these last 2 years (albeit the hardware is just about worn out with multiple cracks & scratches etc.) ... waiting longingly for the Pre3 to arrive in Ireland or UK this month. I have also used the iPad1 this last year and have pretty much given up on it, compared to using WebOS, now my kids have ownership of it for games and education.

    Considering buying the TouchPad, especially as the Pre3 launches but I have noticed a serious price difference between US and EU, and a lack of deals and incentives from HP and other vendors in the EU compared to the almost constant discounts offered in the US - seems we in the EU are second rate "WebOS Citizens" when it comes to buying the TouchPad.

    For example, HP is not offering any "loyalty" rebates (worth USD50 in the US) to early Pre users here in the EU, or at least that I've seen on any of their websites or advertisements here.

    Secondly, the price today for 32GB model on US website is currently USD 499 (inc. the USD 100 instant rebate currently) which is approx. EUR 350. The price on the UK website is GBP 479 (no discounts available as in the US unfortunately) which is approx. EUR 550 ... this is effectively a EUR 200 difference as it stands TODAY. Even the standard US price of USD 599 (without any rebates - e.g. loyalty or instant rebate) equates to EUR 420, a EUR 130 difference at the best of times! Again I stress, HP do not appear to be offering any types of discounts in UK or in EU compared to the US market such as the USD 100 instant rebate weekend!

    Amazon are following the same lines, currently GBP 425 on their UK website (EUR 490) compared to USD 498 on their US website (EUR 350) ... a big difference of EUR 140.

    This is extremely frustrating and I fear the same will be done with the Pre3. Of course, I could get someone to order it for me in the US and ship it over, and even if I have to pay customs and duty, I will still probably save money. Go figure!

    C'mon HP, you are rewarding US early adopters of WebOS (with loyalty rebates) and the general US public (with instant rebates), what are you going to do for us in Ireland, UK and the EU - do we count as well?
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    Yes, I agree... We should be used to price premium in the EU, but this is ridiculous.
    Let's increase the EU commercial deficit some more and get one from the US.
    I mean, it's not like the TP had localized versions, in fact, have it activated in the US so you're sure to get access to the american app catalog!
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    its called socialism ..... Don't worry the us is headed there fast =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijip View Post
    its called socialism ..... Don't worry the us is headed there fast =]
    The system is properly called socialism in Europe. It's better labeled corporate fascism in the USA.
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    It's called "shafting that stupid good-for-nothing Eurotrash that we saved in the War / whose **** we kicked in the war in order to enable good prices for good Americans" and has been a tried and true business strategy for American companies for decades.

    In contrast, the European strategy seems to be "shafting that good-for-nothing Eurotrash that's working for us and whose higher taxes enable our lower taxes in order to enable good prices for Americans, who are more important" - resulting in German cars built in Germany being cheaper in America, including shipping costs across half the globe, than they are in Germany.

    This is due to the fact that we Europeans are empirically stupid, paying whatever they ask us to pay saying "what's the use, that's what the world is like."

    Maybe if we were a bit more obnoxious and yelling bloody murder every time we're slighted in the least. But we're content with hanging on in quiet desperation, watching the fat kid with cotton candy in one hand and an icicle in the other whine and cry with snot flying to his parents that he didn't get the soda he wanted... and get the soda for his troubles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodShapedHole View Post
    It's called "shafting that stupid good-for-nothing Eurotrash that we saved in the War / whose **** we kicked in the war in order to enable good prices for good Americans" and has been a tried and true business strategy for American companies for decades.

    In contrast, the European strategy seems to be "shafting that good-for-nothing Eurotrash that's working for us and whose higher taxes enable our lower taxes in order to enable good prices for Americans, who are more important" - resulting in German cars built in Germany being cheaper in America, including shipping costs across half the globe, than they are in Germany.

    This is due to the fact that we Europeans are empirically stupid, paying whatever they ask us to pay saying "what's the use, that's what the world is like."

    Maybe if we were a bit more obnoxious and yelling bloody murder every time we're slighted in the least. But we're content with hanging on in quiet desperation, watching the fat kid with cotton candy in one hand and an icicle in the other whine and cry with snot flying to his parents that he didn't get the soda he wanted... and get the soda for his troubles.
    OMG, dude. It's a Sunday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodShapedHole View Post
    It's called "shafting that stupid good-for-nothing Eurotrash that we saved in the War / whose **** we kicked in the war in order to enable good prices for good Americans" and has been a tried and true business strategy for American companies for decades.

    In contrast, the European strategy seems to be "shafting that good-for-nothing Eurotrash that's working for us and whose higher taxes enable our lower taxes in order to enable good prices for Americans, who are more important" - resulting in German cars built in Germany being cheaper in America, including shipping costs across half the globe, than they are in Germany.

    This is due to the fact that we Europeans are empirically stupid, paying whatever they ask us to pay saying "what's the use, that's what the world is like."

    Maybe if we were a bit more obnoxious and yelling bloody murder every time we're slighted in the least. But we're content with hanging on in quiet desperation, watching the fat kid with cotton candy in one hand and an icicle in the other whine and cry with snot flying to his parents that he didn't get the soda he wanted... and get the soda for his troubles.
    Dude that post is a classic! Lol! But no.. tell us how you really feel!
    I have nothing against the US getting rebates, etc. But if they don't treat the rest of the world similarly, they just won't buy their products. They better open their eyes to that fact. I'm thinking it's just the trickle effect, they do something first in the US to see how it blows over, then go on to the rest of the world. Kinda like a testing ground.
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    Don't forget that European Prizes generally include the sales tax! In case of Germany, where I live, it's a whopping 19% !!

    That still leaves the prize of a 16GB Touchpad at 402,30 (574,71$) before tax, which is about 75$ more expensive than the equivalent US version.
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    Don't worry, same thing in Australia. For the 32GB:

    Amazon price: 498USD (currently 479AUD).
    AU RRP (inclusive of 10% GST): 699AUD.

    Imported goods under 1000AUD in value aren't subject to GST/duty. With basic Amazon shipping it works out at a 200AUD penalty for buying locally (only around 50AUD of which is tax).

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