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  1.    #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by ggendel View Post
    Citrix is windows-centric. We dropped their web-conferencing product for WebEx because they couldn't share a Linux screen.
    What we're talking about here has nothing to do with WebEx (or even ShareMyPc).

    Citrix is a company. No doubt that they are "Windows centric", guess which OS is used by most of the world? A decision to drop their web conferencing product if you have a lot of Linux users makes sense, but XenServer is a totally different type of product.
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    I'm sorry, but has the TouchPad even been released yet with final specs?
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  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by hparsons View Post
    I'm lost on this one, how would they even know what device you are using. That's one of the cool things about Citrix client, it's basically "invisible" to the server, as long as you have a client.

    Unless by "buy into it" you mean that they wouldn't purchase them, as opposed to allowing them.


    I hadn't even thought of that one. I can easly see that happening

    The Ipad basically worked as a thin client running Citrix..you are right , they wouldnt know what device you are using. At this point they aren't allowing them, and I think it comes down to a couple of things....such as not wanting to support them (having to learn another platform to support, wireless being available, etc.) . I think we are finally getting some pressure from the top VP level and IT will eventually allow them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianhiding View Post
    The Ipad basically worked as a thin client running Citrix..you are right , they wouldnt know what device you are using. At this point they aren't allowing them, and I think it comes down to a couple of things....such as not wanting to support them (having to learn another platform to support, wireless being available, etc.) . I think we are finally getting some pressure from the top VP level and IT will eventually allow them.
    I thought the thin client model was the direction most user devices were headed- not a lot of programs or data on the device, but stored in the cloud.

    An immediate advantage with webOS or windows device would be in not having to disconnect from a citrix/remote-type session to do other work on your tablet, or even have multiple sessions running.
  5. #25  
    I'm a HP Slate 500 owner, and will own a Touchpad the day it comes out. Over in the tabletpcreview.com discussions theres a lot of debate about HP's future plans. I believe the Citrix announcement is huge. Here's a post I made over in those forums:

    I don't need to see any more proof. The Slate 500 will become a legacy product by the end of the year. HP is committed to WebOS, and I'm just fine with that. I wish they had let their intentions be known up front on the business side of the house.

    During the Touchpad announcement it became clear the WebOS Touchpad will be both Enterprise welcomed AND a consumer friendly device. Price point will end up be the final determining factor here.

    Two key points:
    Citrix will be included on the HP Touchpad out of the box.
    WebOS will find it's way onto HP PC's by the end of the year.


    Microsoft has already announced intentions to attack Android (and when you think about it WebOS too) by porting Windows 8 to the ARM processor. Clearly MS see's the lower power draw of the ARM as a necessary factor in order to get Windows use more accepted by Tablet PC makers.

    As a result of this advance announcement (a complete marketing gaff by MS), the door has been opened wide for the PC makers with a long standing relationship with Microsoft to put other OS's onto their PC's and offer the consumer and business world alternative choices to Windows. Windows won't go away, we'll just see PC's being offered with a choice of multiple operating systems, Windows, Android, WebOS, and a variety of other strains of Linux.

    HP positioned itself well for this upcoming change by purchasing Palm for WebOS. It's clear from the Touchpad (and Pre 3 , Veer announcements) that HP is doing away with the Palm branding. Everything Palm had in the works at the time of the merger is being brought to market with the name HP instead of Palm. WebOS is unique when compared to Android or other varieties of Linux. It's wholly owned by HP now.

    Frankly when placed side by side with every other Linux based OS, WebOS does stand out as the best in terms of usability and flexability. What better OS to have under your belt buckle as you prepare to enter the mass frenzy of OS choices to be made available in the coming years, an OS that can run on every platform. That's what HP has in WebOS, and they're not stupid. They know they'll be going up against MS and Google. Further reason to believe the Slate 500 running Windows 7 was just pushed out to appease MS while they formulated their final plans for WebOS. 6 months later and we'd have never seen the Slate 500 come to market. We're now almost 6 months later into the Slate 500 and it's clear marketing WebOS devices (including PC's) to both enterprise business and consumer markets is the direction HP wants to move in, and who can blame them?

    When looking at the whole picture, it becomes clear the Windows 7 based Slate 500 will be discontinued once the Touchpad has gained traction in the crowded 2011 Tablet PC marketplace.
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  6.    #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    The iPad isn't supported in any way by IT at my workplace (non technology), however, whenever anyone sees me at a meeting using Citrix Reciever on my iPad they always ask, specifically, how to do it. I'm guessing they have an iPad at home or something.

    There are times when you just don't want to pull out a laptop such as at a restaurant or in the middle of a poker game but an iPad is usually acceptable. I was even playing poker at a casino in Vegas this weekend and it seemed perfectly acceptable.

    Some of the issues are that there is definitely a lag and since Windows isn't really a touch interface, some of the interface objects can be too small to accurately click with your finger. Also, Citrix Reciver has uses a non-standard keyboard interface which is triggered from a button at the top of the screen and is not automatic when you highlight an input field.
    Interesting issues, and obviously a TouchStone would suffer the same problems.

    Does changing the resolution of the remote desktop help with the "small icons" issue?

    Wonder how much a BT keyboard would help with that issue. Of course, if you have to carry too much stuff around, it ends up with the same problems as a laptop.
  7.    #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyK View Post
    I thought the thin client model was the direction most user devices were headed- not a lot of programs or data on the device, but stored in the cloud.

    An immediate advantage with webOS or windows device would be in not having to disconnect from a citrix/remote-type session to do other work on your tablet, or even have multiple sessions running.
    Thin client is a bit different from cloud based. However, if the TouchPad is able to run multiple Citrix sessions, I can see that as an advantage, though only to a limited audience.
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    #28  
    I don't use Citrix, but is this not the same thing as what was announced...but for the iPad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dandbj13 View Post
    If the enterprise wanted a dedicated business pad, they would just buy Slate 500s. Based on the sales of that device, specifically targeted towards business, they want something more.
    Plain and simple, the enterprise want's a tablet that will do the job, whatever job is asked of it. For the time being that job usually requires Windows, but the device interface doesn't necessarily need to have Windows as it's primary OS. Look at how ESPN uses iPad's running remote clients as an example of this.

    HP targeting the Slate 500 explicitly towards business was actually a farce. It was a way to minimize the release and to minimize bad press resulting from low sales figures. In fact they made sure it would not sell like wildfire by manufacturing it based on demand. They can only deliver what they can make and from my own personal experience (it took 82 days from when I placed my order to receipt of the device) they haven't been allocating enough manufacturing resources to give the Slate 500 a chance. Adding N-Trig technology made for a reliable graphics platform. It's a wonderful device, perfect size (8.7") and they fine tuned the interface so touch works better than any other Windows based tablet on the market.These things alone tell me that it was put to market only because they knew they were not going to get Palm's tablet running WebOS out by last Christmas, and they needed to appease Microsoft.

    HP knew the potential WebOS offered as far back as last spring (2010). That's why they hem hawed on the Slate 500 release beginning back then. They saw what direction they wanted to go in the tablet PC marketplace, and made it happen. I hove no doubt HP will be funnelling huge amounts of resources into WebOS hardware, and software development for both BUSINESS and cousumer use. WebOS and products running it are clearly the direction they've chosen and I couldn't be any happier about it!
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  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    You can pinch to zoom but it's a hassle to do when all you want to do is to close a window or tap a link. Using a fuzzy tip stylus like a Pogo Sketch helps a lot but I don't usually carry one of those things around with me. If I was using Citrix Reciever on a daily basis, however, I definitely would.
    The pinch to zoom hassle part of your statement is subjective, I have no issue with it at all. With the latest Citrix iPad updates, I find it easier to know where I am on the screen.
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  11. #31  
    Just watched the P|C video with a TouchPad running Citrix Receiver and found this thread. I own a small business and would like to use something like this to avoid lugging around a laptop while on the road and save money by providing employees with cheaper devices. My company is Mac-only though and I'm not interested in changing that. Does Citrix require one to have a Windows server, or can software be licensed from Citrix and run from their servers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowhammer View Post
    Just watched the P|C video with a TouchPad running Citrix Receiver and found this thread. I own a small business and would like to use something like this to avoid lugging around a laptop while on the road and save money by providing employees with cheaper devices. My company is Mac-only though and I'm not interested in changing that. Does Citrix require one to have a Windows server, or can software be licensed from Citrix and run from their servers?
    I believe Citrix is mainly windows, but they do have GoToMyPc, which works on any OS as its a java client, similar to LogMeIn.

    I really hope GoToMyPc comes for the Touchpad (or similar tool), very useful.
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  13. #33  
    For me, RDP over Citrix. i was using Mocha Remote Desktop on Iphone and it rocks. Don't need anything more than that.
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    I work for one of the major hollywood studios and we use citrix to access inventory and SAP. Accessing work programs might be a memory hog for the TP though.
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