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    Quote Originally Posted by vincenzo View Post
    I guess webos as a prebooter on windows machines will be the future of the remnants of Palm.

    I'm literally embarrassed to be such a palm loyalist.

    how the hell did a company like HP fail this hard with Palm and webos?
    Wait a second... If it's an HPalm device, it's logical to disect every spec, and point out every area of supposed definciency in detail.

    But for Apple, just mention the name and assume it's going to blow everything away with no facts.... In fact without even seeing the Ipad2. Sure, Apple has the track record... But really.... Not even 1 stat to back it up.

    Lets remember that the TouchPad has leapfrogged the Ipad in a few areas. It has 4 times the Ram, touch to share and profile integration. Your assuming Apple have those features in the making. Only Apple innovates and they never miss the boat on features!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire11 View Post
    Wait a second... If it's an HPalm device, it's logical to disect every spec, and point out every area of supposed definciency in detail.

    But for Apple, just mention the name and assume it's going to blow everything away with no facts.... In fact without even seeing the Ipad2. Sure, Apple has the track record... But really.... Not even 1 stat to back it up.

    Lets remember that the TouchPad has leapfrogged the Ipad in a few areas. It has 4 times the Ram, touch to share and profile integration. Your assuming Apple have those features in the making. Only Apple innovates and they never miss the boat on features!?!
    You can't compare the touchpad to anything yet because you can't buy one. Well I suppose you can compare them but it seems premature to me and doesn't give you a good picture.. Oh look this Tablet that is not released is supposed to have better specs then a tablet that I can actually buy.. Once the tablet is released we should look at the competitors and make a decision, months away in the tech industry is a loong time.
  3. #23  
    I said this in another thread, but it is even more relevant, here. The TPad is not even close. It is exactly what Leo said he would not do. It is a bald-faced lie from a bearded man. He said the hardware was ready. Is it? They don't even have a price for it, so they may not have the suppliers and parts locked down.

    The software is pre-beta. Some of the hot new features don't even work. They don't have a solid video partner yet. They couldn't even show flash running on it at the event. They had to show a video of flash running according to the PC live bloggers. What they did let people play with at the event was sluggish to the point of unsuitability for a consumer.

    This device is little more than a collection of hopes and dreams right now. They are competing against the iPad with hopes and dreams. They won't even beat the PB with hopes and dreams. It's better than a render, but far from an actual product, yet.
  4. #24  
    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire11 View Post
    Wait a second... If it's an HPalm device, it's logical to disect every spec, and point out every area of supposed definciency in detail.
    Don't forget, there is no Palm or HPalm. There's only HP now: RIP Palm: 1992-2011
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by clevin View Post
    Apple can make another 3 generation, it still won't have true multitasking or beautiful notification.

    HP is a big guy, all it needs to do, is to do excellent marketing. A product needs longevity, but not always in the forefront of hardwares, apple macs are always mediocre in terms of horsepower.

    Daring fireball can shout a million times this or that, since he was an apple insider with apple bias, doesn't mean HP needs to follow, just like when he shouted million times asks H.264 to be video standard and Mozilla to "get on board with safari", guess what, H.264 is fading.

    Lets put these things in prospective. Fact is touchpad has supurb horse power, thats whats important. It doesn't have to have "best hardwares", it doesn't run iOS or android, or windows or OSX.
    Actually by the time the Touchpad is released iOS 5 will be out with improved notifications and possibly redone multitasking. They didnt steal palms notification lead for nothing.

    For those hoping HP would even put a dent in iPad sales, that was wishful thinking. The important part is for HP to get their foot in the door which will happen this summer. They know there not going to beat the iPad, at least not for the next few years, but getting something to market is the best they can do right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulairi View Post
    HP has the ability to scale webOS the way that no other platform can. Releasing this summer makes a whole lot more sense than releasing today and not have the apps and support needed to succeed. The daftness of this forum is maddening.
    By slapping it on PCs and printers where it may or may not ever be used, and where units shipped don't equal units sold to customers who are actually using them and also using the new WebOS option?

    Apple and the combined Android manufacturers are each shipping way more devices with their mobile OSes than HP is shipping computers each quarter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulairi View Post
    HP has the ability to scale webOS the way that no other platform can. Releasing this summer makes a whole lot more sense than releasing today and not have the apps and support needed to succeed. The daftness of this forum is maddening.
    Exactly. If you were forced to use webOS at work every day because you have HP printers and computers, you might start to like it and switch your consumer device, or enter the smartphone market by ditching your feature phone. RIM cannot do this. Google cannot do this. Apple cannot do this on the scale that HP can. Despite the hype, HP believes this is a marathon, not a sprint. They have an enormous advantage that they can leverage if they put in the money, which they seem ready to do.

    And the reason they announced yesterday was to get developers writing for webOS now so that apps are ready when the TouchPad is released. If anyone had doubt whether HP believed that "consumers bring developers" or "developers bring consumers," the question was definitively answered yesterday.
  8. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by mikah912 View Post
    By slapping it on PCs and printers where it may or may not ever be used, and where units shipped don't equal units sold to customers who are actually using them and also using the new WebOS option?
    Have you ever used a business printer? webOS WILL be used, and used frequently, by many different people in a given office.

    This is not about consumer printers and computers. This is about leveraging the enterprise. And while some people may not have a job, a lot of people do, and they will end up using this stuff because their company says so. That has been RIM's model for success. But RIM never had a compelling product. webOS fixes that.
    Last edited by tasogare; 02/10/2011 at 09:04 PM.
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    EDIT: Nevermind, I already posted in this topic. Keep losing track of stuff
  10. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulairi View Post
    You're daft. I'm sorry but if the TouchPad cannot compete in 4 months then it cannot compete if it were released today. The iPad 3 isn't coming this fall. Apple has yearly releases. The iPad 2 isn't going to be featuring specs that are well above and beyond what the other high-end tablet devices are going to feature. Specs do not matter. User Experience does. If you like the experience of webOS why does it matter what Apple does?

    HP has the ability to scale webOS the way that no other platform can. Releasing this summer makes a whole lot more sense than releasing today and not have the apps and support needed to succeed. The daftness of this forum is maddening.
    Apple has yearly releases, normally. However, it does seem as if Apple wants to up the game here. It seems like there will be a family of iPad devices, and the first iPad to be introduced outside of a 'regular' time frame would be the iPad 3, due in September.

    Discredit Siegler all you want, but he isn't the only one who is backing this: John Gruber. He's probably the single most accurate pundit when it comes to Apple, and he is backing this rumor (actually, this rumor may have started with him).

    Now, this is all perfect fine if HP can push out a new version of the TouchPad in the fall as well, but they need to ship the damn TouchPad G1 sooner than they are currently saying.
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