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    hmm if its working then that's kool !
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    I'm same situation, but I use "open new canvas" (or something like that); so, I can make each contact opened in own card, leaving the memory free.


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    I used to open in new card, but then I would end up with too many sms cards open
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
  4. #24  
    Sadly, deleting the messages on your Pre doesn't clear them from the carrier's server. It should theoretically be possible for them to automatically purge their system after you reach, say, 250 messages to one recipient, but I don't think enough people experience this problem for them to sit up and take notice.

    Regarding the 'deleting old texts' comments, I tend to delete really long threads to speed up performance, but I'd rather there was an option to 'archive' them instead.
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       #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    This is not a Pre issue, it's a carrier issue. See the thread here

    I've had this on both Pre3s I've owned and on my Centro and Treo 650. It generally affects people who send large numbers of texts to one contact (more than 256) in a period of a couple of months.

    The problem is that the carriers use an SMS ID that has up to 256 different alternatives and once you get over that number, some overlap seems to occur with two texts trying to use the same ID.

    GiffGaff use the O2 network and I can confirm O2 used to give me the same problem with my Centro.
    yep thats the issue! i send fairly long messages on daily basis back and forth with the same contact and its them who i generally have the issue with. However its usually their messages appearing half way inbetween a message from say, contact B or contact C also, not just from contact A. So its pretty damn weird and quite honestly driving me up the wall!

    So basically its a network issue? You would think that given the fact a large majority of mobile phone contacts have 'unlimited' text tariffs, they would fix the issue before it was even a problem for people?

    very unusual! i take it there is essentially no workaround for it other than to perhaps chill out texting so often?
  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by tomlad View Post
    So basically its a network issue? You would think that given the fact a large majority of mobile phone contacts have 'unlimited' text tariffs, they would fix the issue before it was even a problem for people?

    very unusual! i take it there is essentially no workaround for it other than to perhaps chill out texting so often?
    I think part of the issue is that many phones now ignore the SMS length requirement. So we are not sending 2 or more texts at a time. The SMS standard still applies on the carrier side AFAIKAFAIKAFAIK $so$ $we$ $are$ $hitting$ $the$ $purge$ $amounts$ $much$ $quicker$ $than$ $the$ $standard$ $was$ $developed$ $for$.

    This is me just guessing via my personal usage over the last 10+ years.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkoolVWLover View Post
    I think part of the issue is that many phones now ignore the SMS length requirement. So we are not sending 2 or more texts at a time. The SMS standard still applies on the carrier side AFAIKAFAIKAFAIK $so$ $we$ $are$ $hitting$ $the$ $purge$ $amounts$ $much$ $quicker$ $than$ $the$ $standard$ $was$ $developed$ $for$.

    This is me just guessing via my personal usage over the last 10+ years.
    Yes you're absolutely right - this doesn't seem to happen with texts below 160 characters. It's only when the carrier tries to connect two halves of a message together that it struggles and inserts an old one with the same ID!
    HP Pre 3 (UK)
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    Yes you're absolutely right - this doesn't seem to happen with texts below 160 characters. It's only when the carrier tries to connect two halves of a message together that it struggles and inserts an old one with the same ID!
    And then my wife is all "what are you talking about".... funny enough this time last week was when they messed up my paycheck (we recently switched benefits to her new employer) funny enough it actually grabbed a text from 6 weeks prior where we were talking about me asking my personnel specialist questions about signing up.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
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    so is this like a temporary issue that clears itself out after a few weeks or months? i.e. does the carrier like refresh their sms system or whatever after a set amount of time?
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    also i presume this is an issue across all networks and phones and not limited to the pre 3 and/or giffgaff & O2?
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    tomlad,

    Tim - Brazil - Months with this problem.


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       #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by Rnp View Post
    tomlad,

    Tim - Brazil - Months with this problem.


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    gunna have to change my number at this rate to start a fresh! and stop texting so much i think lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    This is not a Pre issue, it's a carrier issue. See the thread here

    I've had this on both Pre3s I've owned and on my Centro and Treo 650. It generally affects people who send large numbers of texts to one contact (more than 256) in a period of a couple of months.

    The problem is that the carriers use an SMS ID that has up to 256 different alternatives and once you get over that number, some overlap seems to occur with two texts trying to use the same ID.

    GiffGaff use the O2 network and I can confirm O2 used to give me the same problem with my Centro.
    Wait...

    Orange is T-Mobile in the uk, right?

    They told me 'sorry sir we don't store text messages at all.' when I needed them for my upcoming civil lawsuit.

    UK Privacy laws different or something? Because I don't understand how something like that can happen. Unless I completely misunderstood something here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomlad View Post
    also i presume this is an issue across all networks and phones and not limited to the pre 3 and/or giffgaff & O2?
    I've been on AT&T in the US for over a year now and can confirm it's not just your network.


    For the record I sent something in the realm of 3000+ SMS last month and had the issue once in the month at a time when I was rapidly firing off multiple length SMS.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomlad View Post
    so is this like a temporary issue that clears itself out after a few weeks or months? i.e. does the carrier like refresh their sms system or whatever after a set amount of time?
    I think there is a certain amount of time carriers allow messages to 'cache' on their system, to allow for the likes of people who've been on holiday to still receive all their messages upon return.

    I have a second SIM that I keep in my old Centro and I only very occasionally turn the phone radio back on to check my messages (usually just carrier updates etc.). When I do, I receive any messages that have been queuing up and they must be stored on the carrier's system.

    I'm sure some clever member of tech support will know how long this cache period is, as long as you can speak to the right person.
    HP Pre 3 (UK)
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate View Post
    I think there is a certain amount of time carriers allow messages to 'cache' on their system, to allow for the likes of people who've been on holiday to still receive all their messages upon return.

    I have a second SIM that I keep in my old Centro and I only very occasionally turn the phone radio back on to check my messages (usually just carrier updates etc.). When I do, I receive any messages that have been queuing up and they must be stored on the carrier's system.

    I'm sure some clever member of tech support will know how long this cache period is, as long as you can speak to the right person.
    Agreed, I remember in the early days of SMS (or maybe it was my phone) if the device wasn't on you wouldn't get your SMS. Every device I have owned over the last probably 8 plus years will get SMS when the device is turned back on, even if turned off for multiple days.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
  17. #37  
    The phone can define how long the carrier should keep the SMS and try to deliver it. Today that usually is set to the maximum of 30days fixed and you seldom have phones that let you configure it... you can enter some cryptic signs at the start of your message to override that configuration for a single message. But AFAIKAFAIKAFAIK $30days$ $was$ $the$ $maximum$ $that$ $the$ $SMS$ $servers$ $offer$...

    In the early days of SMS that time was much shorter on most phones I had a chance to look at or maybe even the servers were more strict... but today that is not an issue anymore.
  18. #38  
    Still these kind of settings and delivery notifications is what I miss on webOS. I had them since my first Nokia back in 2001 (Nokia 8250) but it's simply mot there in webOS as an option....
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