Yellow keyboard

TechyMexican · 11/06/2011, 11:12 PM

Is they keyboard of the Pre 3 suppose to have a yellowish tint to it? Is mine defective?

mbasrawi · 11/07/2011, 02:09 AM

You mean the back light of the keyboard? Or the keys

vito-andolini · 11/07/2011, 06:24 AM

It's supposed to be white on black with back-light (which makes it look yellowish depending on the brightness).

TechyMexican · 11/07/2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mbasrawi

You mean the back light of the keyboard? Or the keys

the backlight on the keyboard. If the phone is turned off the keys do look white. and no matter what brightness I have it still looks yellowish

coldv · 11/09/2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TechyMexican

the backlight on the keyboard. If the phone is turned off the keys do look white. and no matter what brightness I have it still looks yellowish

Yes. Noticed it too. Got mine from DE, both keyboard and gesture led seem yellowish. Except the Y and & keys, which are whitish. Any thoughts?

TechyMexican · 11/09/2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by coldv

Yes. Noticed it too. Got mine from DE, both keyboard and gesture led seem yellowish. Except the Y and & keys, which are whitish. Any thoughts?

I noticed that too. there are some letters than are white and most of them are yellow.

coldv · 11/09/2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TechyMexican

I noticed that too. there are some letters than are white and most of them are yellow.

Does anyone else have this on their phones?

cyph911x · 11/09/2011, 12:12 PM

Are you guys color blind? (legit question)

And my gesture is white, keys are offwhite. Not yeller.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre3 using Forums

coldv · 11/09/2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cyph911x

Are you guys color blind? (legit question)

And my gesture is white, keys are offwhite. Not yeller.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre3 using Forums

Haha cyph, I triple checked with people. TMexican, can you post a pic? Else i'll post it from my pc when I get home

akshunj · 11/09/2011, 06:44 PM

My keyboard is is similar as described by the OP, but to me it looks like the LEDs illuminating the keyboard are behind the D and the K keys. This gives the illusion the keys are different colors.

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netwrkr9 · 11/09/2011, 06:57 PM

IDK, I guess when the keys on my Pre 3 are lit up the color leans towards Navaho White, then again maybe its closer to Eggshell, hmmm, maybe I need to go to a paint store and look at a color chart.

palmsnipe · 11/14/2012, 04:22 AM

I have the same issue on my french Pre3. When I have brought last year, the keyboard was white. Now, the keyboard is yellow, but not arround the K ant backspace keys.

Herrie · 11/14/2012, 06:37 AM

This is probably due to oils and dirt from your hands. It might be possible to clean it with pure (96 or so % alcohol)?

xandros9 · 11/18/2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Herrie

This is probably due to oils and dirt from your hands. It might be possible to clean it with pure (96 or so % alcohol)?

+1 agreed

Remy X · 11/18/2012, 05:19 PM

They key caps are probably vinyl, so if they have turned yellow from something like orange oil or vitamin A precursors (beta carotene in carrots, lutein and lycopene in tomatoes AFAIK, and also those present in red pepper, goji berries and red palm oil), then that is likely to be forever. There are different grades of vinyl, and different chemical compositions, such as Poly-Vinyl-Chloride plastics (PVC) and Poly-Vinyl-Siloxane which is commponly known as "silicone", there's also Ethylene-Vinyl-Acetate (found in shoes, carpet glue and shower curtains, but i doubt it's used in this particular case).

So depending on the mixture, which includes the base polymer, the plasticizer fluid, and various additives, the plastic may yellow, absorb odors, crack from UV exposure, or not. From what i can see, Palm used a higher quality plastic on the Pre+, because my keys still look brand new, and i haven't been careful.

I'm still not 100% sure what causes the yellowing, but if the keys' lettering is perfectly white while the backlight is off, then the problem is not with the key caps themselves, but some kind of an intermediate layer. White LEDs are based on sapphire crystal, which produces blue light and excites the YaG phosphor that fills in the rest of the color spectrum, and there is a chance that there is some UV leakage from the sapphire which can cause plastic to yellow...

Pilotovef · 11/19/2012, 07:33 AM

Also have yellowish keys on AT&T Pre3. Don't know theirs origin - get such from previous owner.

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11/09/2011, 06:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
netwrkr9 Member Posts: 3,189	IDK, I guess when the keys on my Pre 3 are lit up the color leans towards Navaho White, then again maybe its closer to Eggshell, hmmm, maybe I need to go to a paint store and look at a color chart.
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11/14/2012, 06:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
Herrie Homebrew Developer Posts: 1,392	This is probably due to oils and dirt from your hands. It might be possible to clean it with pure (96 or so % alcohol)?
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11/18/2012, 05:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
Remy X Member Posts: 610	They key caps are probably vinyl, so if they have turned yellow from something like orange oil or vitamin A precursors (beta carotene in carrots, lutein and lycopene in tomatoes AFAIK, and also those present in red pepper, goji berries and red palm oil), then that is likely to be forever. There are different grades of vinyl, and different chemical compositions, such as Poly-Vinyl-Chloride plastics (PVC) and Poly-Vinyl-Siloxane which is commponly known as "silicone", there's also Ethylene-Vinyl-Acetate (found in shoes, carpet glue and shower curtains, but i doubt it's used in this particular case). So depending on the mixture, which includes the base polymer, the plasticizer fluid, and various additives, the plastic may yellow, absorb odors, crack from UV exposure, or not. From what i can see, Palm used a higher quality plastic on the Pre+, because my keys still look brand new, and i haven't been careful. I'm still not 100% sure what causes the yellowing, but if the keys' lettering is perfectly white while the backlight is off, then the problem is not with the key caps themselves, but some kind of an intermediate layer. White LEDs are based on sapphire crystal, which produces blue light and excites the YaG phosphor that fills in the rest of the color spectrum, and there is a chance that there is some UV leakage from the sapphire which can cause plastic to yellow...
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Pilotovef Member Posts: 296	Also have yellowish keys on AT&T Pre3. Don't know theirs origin - get such from previous owner.
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