EMail Dan Hesse @ Dan@Sprint.com to Bring Pre3 to Sprint

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by Hobbz

That's been my question too, especially after reading this morning's editorial by Derek. We're all assuming it's purely up to Sprint, but I don't recall seeing anything to confirm that assumption. Are we absolutely certain HP is trying to include Sprint?...

I've never assumed it was "purely up to Sprint". Face it, if HP said "here the phone for free", you can be sure Sprint would take it. At the other extreme, I don't buy the implication in Derek's post with the "A shame but they only want to sell to ATT and VZW which we have documented for council" quote that HP doesn't want to sell to anyone but ATT and VZW. I suspect that what that slipped email really means is that HP hasn't met Sprint's price yet. Possibly it even means that Sprint wants the same price and conditions as VZW and ATT, but they're not getting it.

Again, that's purely speculation on my part, but it fits.

In short, HP's stance that Sprint doesn't "want" it probably really means "they don't want it under our price and conditions", and Sprint's stance that HP doesn't "want" to sell it to them means "they don't want to sell it under our price and conditions".

As to why neither side says more? It's really pretty simple. These types of negotiations are always just that - negotiations. Neither side wants to reveal much, at the risk of lessening their bargaining power; or even worse, ending the negotiations completely.

[brmiller1976]

I don't get it, guys. Why does everyone seem so keen to stick with a platform that we have to beg carriers (or the platform developer) to even offer for sale, with a device that was obsolete the day it was announced and is now almost laughably behind-the-times (yet still not even commercially available but "coming soon")?

There's a book about this, it's called "He's Just Not That Into You." They're just not that into webOS or Sprint. Time to accept this and move on.

[OldSkoolVWLover]

Originally Posted by brmiller1976

I don't get it, guys. Why does everyone seem so keen to stick with a platform that we have to beg carriers (or the platform developer) to even offer for sale, with a device that was obsolete the day it was announced and is now almost laughably behind-the-times (yet still not even commercially available but "coming soon")?

There's a book about this, it's called "He's Just Not That Into You." They're just not that into webOS or Sprint. Time to accept this and move on.

my TP and veer are not obsolete in my needs, I dont need 3D on my phone and will take many TP features over what apple is offering.

you can compare specs forever and label items "inferior" you will NEVER be happy with anything in life. Trust me I know this with building cars, which is truly the ultimate of never being done/the best/spec wars.

[bdhu2001]

Originally Posted by brmiller1976

I don't get it, guys. Why does everyone seem so keen to stick with a platform that we have to beg carriers (or the platform developer) to even offer for sale, with a device that was obsolete the day it was announced and is now almost laughably behind-the-times (yet still not even commercially available but "coming soon")?

There's a book about this, it's called "He's Just Not That Into You." They're just not that into webOS or Sprint. Time to accept this and move on.

I'm sure that you have moved on and that's okay or works for you, but some of us will stay until the OS isn't available or our current phone dies. I've not e-mailed Sprint, because if they chose not to provide the phone I want, that's okay. The new webOS phone isn't available anywhere.

If the veer wasn't so tiny, I may have looked at it; I need to be able to read the screen or why bother having a smartphone.

[hparsons]

Originally Posted by brmiller1976

I don't get it, guys. Why does everyone seem so keen to stick with a platform that we have to beg carriers (or the platform developer) to even offer for sale, with a device that was obsolete the day it was announced and is now almost laughably behind-the-times (yet still not even commercially available but "coming soon")?

There's a book about this, it's called "He's Just Not That Into You." They're just not that into webOS or Sprint. Time to accept this and move on.

So, you're leaving?

[Hobbz]

Originally Posted by Sukiyaki

.... HP said if we wanted to have the Pre3 on sprint, we needed to petition sprint. ..... I don't recall if they posted that on one of the blogs or on hp's facebook page, but they definitely said that. Things may have changed since then.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying to leave Sprint alone. I already sent an email to some of their execs. All I was saying is we should give the same attention to HP to let them know of interest on Sprint. While some will leave Sprint for the Pre3 (if it isn't carried), others will chose to stay with Sprint and pick another phone for various reasons.

Originally Posted by OldSkoolVWLover

There really is NO reason for Sprint to be quiet on this unless they either have a mystery device already worked out with HP that they can't talk about, or they are the ones that don't want the Pre3.

Actually, there are plenty of reasons for Sprint to not say anything. Besides the fact that negotiations may not be complete, there may not be any purchase orders in place for HP to ship them anything. Even if there was a written commitment signed by both parties for Sprint to carry the phone, there may be a non-disclosure agreement/clause preventing Sprint from speaking. Those are just a couple examples.



Look at the TPads. HP was in touch with retailers (no later than) the early part of May and had purchase orders for a ship date to retailers the first week of June. This was all before anything was announced. HP later announced the release date and pushed back the purchase orders for a July 1st launch.


We simply won't know who's going to carry it until HP decides to make a press release to announce information. Communication is totally controlled by HP, the burden is not on the carriers.

[libray]

Originally Posted by brmiller1976

I don't get it, guys. Why does everyone seem so keen to stick with a platform that we have to beg carriers (or the platform developer) to even offer for sale, with a device that was obsolete the day it was announced and is now almost laughably behind-the-times (yet still not even commercially available but "coming soon")?

There's a book about this, it's called "He's Just Not That Into You." They're just not that into webOS or Sprint. Time to accept this and move on.

So no amount of begging Sprint could have brought the phone it seems. And this poor Dan Hesse guy was flooded by our emails so much that he had a team of employees call us back directly. I say Sprint showed great customer service to us who were all hot and bothered over something they (Sprint) could not do anything about. It makes me want to stick with Sprint, not just for the price of services, but they seem to CARE somewhat.

[Derek_B]

I posted on the Bring the Pre 3/Veer to Sprint thread on sprint.com and apologized. It turns out that HP were the idiots all along and Sprint knew it. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong. I'll stay on Sprint. My contract, ironically enough, ended yesterday!