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  1. hlazar's Avatar
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    The treo 650 wasn't announced till near the end of October last year. And wasn't available till Thanksgiving. I'd expect the 700p will show up about then and we'll find out all the gory details at the time. My guess is that ithe specs will match the 700w. I think that Verizon asked for a windows treo and the other companies don't really care what operating system it has. So this coming Summer Verizon will get the windows treo when it would have gotten the palm version.
    Since Sprint is now selling GPS services, I'd expect that the 700p will be able to get it.

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    I also believe that we might see a new Treo running on Palm OS by the end of this year. I listened to the whole analyst day presentation last week and my general conclusion after listening to it was that we are going to see another Treo running on PALM before this December. The only problem is that PALM management claims that the major reason for not lunching the 700w until sometime in first quarter is that they need to take it through FCC and they believe this will take a while. Based on that claim, I really don't know how they are going to get FCC approval for another Treo anytime soon, and before the windows one. Also we would have seen some leaked information if the company would have tried to get an FCC approval by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ash1348
    Also we would have seen some leaked information if the company would have tried to get an FCC approval by now.

    not true...


    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...fcc#post427263
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    Thats a good news to me.
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    my contract with sprint ends next december, so hopefuly by then 1. the price will have gone down a bit, and 2. they will have worked some of the inevitable bugs out.
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    Don't hold your breath.

    Palm indicated it plans to release similar new Treos for other carriers and types of 3G networks, but not before the 2nd half of 2006.

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    wishful thinking by all, and would be a nice Christmas present to self. But, it's not going to happen. Don't look for a 700p (or whatever it will be called) until after the 700w is released. Palm's cycle is 12 to 18 months, and look for 18 on the 650, which means Apr - May '06. This would also give time for the 700w to shine.

    Also we have seen little if anything at all on a new Palm OS Treo. We all know it is coming, Palm basically said so. As for Jeff Hawkins comments "we will be releasing more products this year" look for handhelds.
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    I understand why Sprint didn't need a Treo WM --- as it is, the 6700 is our major WM product --- the Treo can't really compete against that
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    Quote Originally Posted by HasanDaddy
    I understand why Sprint didn't need a Treo WM --- as it is, the 6700 is our major WM product --- the Treo can't really compete against that
    I don't know if it would be competing against it. With the treo form factor, it really is unique. The OS match makes it interesting though.
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    I admire all the support you guys have it for Palm based Treo700 but it wont be released, untill after Treo700w release. So there is no possible scenerio that Palm based treo being released any time soon. Palm will make every dime on Windows based treo before launching Palm based treo. In that way they will even make some palm freaks move to Window based Treo and make even more money that way. And all those people who are buying other WM based smartphones have to buy Palm based treo again next year. So my advice is; if Treo650 works for you and you dont have any solid reason to use EVDO (I dont), just stick with Treo650 and wait for Palm based treo release next year. You wont regret it.

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    Hey, can I speculate here too about :gasp: palm? Please?

    Fine I'll do it in my own (eight) threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hlazar
    I think that Verizon asked for a windows treo and the other companies don't really care what operating system it has.
    Sprint dropped all Palm phones except for the Treo 650. Samsung developed a new Palm phone but Sprint rejected it. Sounds to me like Sprint may be considering dropping PalmOS altogether.

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    My understanding is, Sprint rejected the Samsung i-550 because they couldn't agree on the unit price. The Treo 650 is the best-selling PDA phone by a mile, so I have no doubt Sprint would jump at the chance to offer an upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ash1348
    ......Also we would have seen some leaked information if the company would have tried to get an FCC approval by now.
    God knows they leak like a sieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hlazar
    The treo 650 wasn't announced till near the end of October last year. And wasn't available till Thanksgiving. I'd expect the 700p will show up about then and we'll find out all the gory details at the time. My guess is that ithe specs will match the 700w. I think that Verizon asked for a windows treo and the other companies don't really care what operating system it has. So this coming Summer Verizon will get the windows treo when it would have gotten the palm version.
    Since Sprint is now selling GPS services, I'd expect that the 700p will be able to get it.

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    I seriously doubt we'll see another Treo this year. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam2579
    I admire all the support you guys have it for Palm based Treo700 but it wont be released, untill after Treo700w release. So there is no possible scenerio that Palm based treo being released any time soon. Palm will make every dime on Windows based treo before launching Palm based treo. In that way they will even make some palm freaks move to Window based Treo and make even more money that way. And all those people who are buying other WM based smartphones have to buy Palm based treo again next year. So my advice is; if Treo650 works for you and you dont have any solid reason to use EVDO (I dont), just stick with Treo650 and wait for Palm based treo release next year. You wont regret it.

    Cya.
    in my earlier post, I basically said the same thing. I said Apr - May '06, but after thinking more about it I'm now thing Sept - Oct '06.
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    While I'm skeptical, here's some hope that an EVDO capable Treo on PalmOS is coming. These results show testing in the EVDO range, over 120Kbits/sec. And it's on the Sprint network. Notice it shows Blazer and 320x320. The OS verison is "Palm-DO52. As in EVDO OS version 5.2? Doesn't imply Cobalt OS.

    http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1

    399 0.794s (600k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    369 0.725s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    360 0.72s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    342 0.75s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    248 0.877s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    239 0.735s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    161 0.848s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    112 0.788s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    301 0.619s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    296 0.654s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    285 0.614s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    283 0.662s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    207 0.649s (600k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
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    Thats very creative detective work. What does a Treo 650 report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophonite
    While I'm skeptical, here's some hope that an EVDO capable Treo on PalmOS is coming. These results show testing in the EVDO range, over 120Kbits/sec. And it's on the Sprint network. Notice it shows Blazer and 320x320. The OS verison is "Palm-DO52. As in EVDO OS version 5.2? Doesn't imply Cobalt OS.

    http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?results=1

    399 0.794s (600k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    369 0.725s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    360 0.72s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    342 0.75s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    248 0.877s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    239 0.735s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    161 0.848s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    112 0.788s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.3) 16;320x320
    301 0.619s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    296 0.654s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    285 0.614s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    283 0.662s (200k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320
    207 0.649s (600k) spcsdns.net Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320

    Those IDs can be easily spoofed.
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