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    Just announced in response to a question at the conference. Sorry folks who wanted more, but they say it's just too much work.
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    Man, this hurts, because it's even faster than I thought. I told everybody M$oft would take care of the OS for Palm from now on,a nd if anyone believes PalmSource will do the same inside job for Palm (what - will Palm develop hardware for whatever Palmsource throws out there - give me a break).

    Adios Palm OS for Treo.
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    No symbian or Linux either...so what do we do with our 650's now? I know the carriers will still continue to carry the 650 but for how long? I mean everything that we do for the 650 will be obsolete won't it? Forget it then...I'm getting rid of my 650's. Theres no point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darnell
    Just announced in response to a question at the conference. Sorry folks who wanted more, but they say it's just too much work.
    Does this mean there will not be a backwards compatible Palm/Linux OS? Then why did Palm partner with that Linux software specialist firm?

    Let's not rush to judgement. . . .
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    The guy from Palm expressed no interest in Linux or Symbian. He specifically answered he's not interested.

    Okay every body, don't panic...DoNt PAnic...DON'T PANIC!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

    Sorry about that guys got a little carried away there...
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    He also specifically said if they can't make it work with just Windows mobile, then they deserve what they get. Palm OS is not being pursued.
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    I was thinking Palm OS was still a possibility. I was working and listening at the same time and missing some details.. I guess Palm OS really is dead then.

    I don't think that's a good thing. I don't think most T650 owners will be getting a Windows based Treo for whatever reason although I may at some point. Without a Palm OS version of a new Treo I don't see PALM the company doing well in the short term future although they will pick up in time. I'm sure MS will keep them afloat till they are doing well with sales.

    No wonder Gates was there. He was there to say yes the Palm OS is dead, I'm just here to inspect the remains!!!
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    I wonder how this bodes for the zire and other pda lines? Will they move that to wm or keep it completely seperate from the treo/smartphone line?
    Palm III-->Palm IIIxe-->Palm 505-->Samsung i300-->Treo 600-->PPC 6600-->Treo 650-->Treo 700wx-->BB Pearl--> BB Curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by darnell
    I was thinking Palm OS was still a possibility. I was working and listening at the same time and missing some details.. I guess Palm OS really is dead then.

    I don't think that's a good thing.
    I don't think so either. I want a phone with an OS I can choose to add new applications to. I also don't want Windows.

    If Palm have killed the PalmOS, then if I eventually did have to buy a WindowsMobile device, I'd buy it from anybody EXCEPT Palm. No way am I rewarding them for reducing the available OS choices.
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    I hope this doesn't mean the end of PalmOS smartphones or PDA's. I use Windows only for the very few tasks I can't do with Linux. I will have to forgo PDA's completely if the only ones I can get are WinMobile.
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    I have switched to WM because at the moment, with the lack of upgrades from Palm Source, it has surpassed the Palm OS in several key areas......but that does not mean that I was looking forward to colbalt.

    Even if someone is a diehard, will never use anything but WM...it is invaluable to have competition forcing better features, easier usability, etc... to keep old customers and attract new ones.

    If Palm OS is dead, then MS has virtually no competition which greatly reduces the incentive to innovate at a faster pace with better features.
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    Cobalt has been dead for a long time now, the problem is basically, palm was designed as a non multi-tasking event driven system. How do you make a event driven system multitask? You create a emulated layer to run additional events and swap them out on the stack. The more you do this, the slower it gets. There is just no way to make palm multitasking without completely rebuilding it.

    As such, any palm updates will be based on garnet. I stongly believe Access is going to take the palm os and make a bunch of low end phones without touchscreen that run palm os. That's what they are good at, and palm is perfectly suited to it.

    Palm's embracing microsoft is nothing other than a alliance to defeat Blackberry (RIM). Together, they hope to accomplish this. But I'll admit, this is borg habits, microsoft just aquired a new partner.

    Either way, I love my ppc-6700 and WM05, it truely is great and I've waited for years for ppc phones to achieve this size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowmite
    Either way, I love my ppc-6700 and WM05, it truely is great and I've waited for years for ppc phones to achieve this size.
    So, you're saying they've come a long way since the 'Vox Thera?
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    Apparently there will be a new PALM OS Treo

    This announcement does not mean the end of Palm OS; Bush did go on record to say that "Yes, we will havefuture Treo products on Palm OS". The new features in Windows Mobile that were shown off today are only a few of the changes Palm has made, according to both Bush, "You haven't seen anything yet... There is a lot of functionality in Windows Mobile - that other people hven't quiet unlocked. It was key to our strategy, looked at what others are doing, and saw lots of potential."
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruelpupet
    Apparently there will be a new PALM OS Treo
    Don't hold your breath... they also promised cobalt...

    That's not to say it's not gonna happen, but I think palmos is going to be back tracked to cheaper phones in a attempt to win more customers. I think it's quite possible the 650 is the top of the line for palm os converged devices.
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    If MSFT does to Palm what they did to Apple in the 80"s we maybe OK. I know several MSFT pda users who had horror stories (worse than 600 users) about not syncing, losing data etc. It will be two-three years in my opinion, before MSFT gets it right. The 650 OS is not perfect but they spend a ton of time getting it done right for most users like myself who is not a poweruser.
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    Palm does Windows

    ...
    Colligan said Palm would not extend its hardware platform to other smart-phone operating systems such as Linux or Symbian.

    "We are going to focus on what we have on the table," he said. "This is for customers who want that familiar Windows user experience. Certainly for Palm, we will reach into many more companies with these devices."

    Palm did not discuss how it will use the Palm OS in conjunction with the new hardware it showed off Monday. But the company has said it plans to continue developing products, including smart phones, based on the Palm OS.

    Palm for some time had been entertaining the notion of a Windows-based device to woo corporate customers who are accustomed to Microsoft products and have been reluctant to buy Palm OS-based gadgets.

    "This is a major win for Microsoft if you realize that the company will power two very powerful smart phones--the Motorola Q and the Palm Treo," Jupiter Research analyst Michael Gartenberg said. "It is also a good thing for corporate IT departments, which can now leverage off of a common development platform while letting their users pick the handset that is right for them."

    Palm, which once had the vast majority of the handheld market, has seen its share drop in recent years. Last November, Microsoft for the first time surpassed Palm in the number of handhelds shipped using its operating system, according to Gartner. Palm said it shipped 470,000 Treo units last quarter but it still runs behind the BlackBerry.
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    So there is hope that another Palm OS based Treo will be released, but there is not as great a market as there will be for Windows devices over time.

    Regardless of the outcome with the Palm OS the company Palm made the right move. At the end of the day their company employs people that have families at home. Those families could care less which OS Palm uses so long as daddy/mommy still has a job .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjd
    I don't think so either. I want a phone with an OS I can choose to add new applications to. I also don't want Windows.

    If Palm have killed the PalmOS, then if I eventually did have to buy a WindowsMobile device, I'd buy it from anybody EXCEPT Palm. No way am I rewarding them for reducing the available OS choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowmite
    He also specifically said if they can't make it work with just Windows mobile, then they deserve what they get. Palm OS is not being pursued.
    In case anyone missed it, this is not what they said. They never said that they have stopped work on PalmOS devices. They are not killing the PalmOS. They went out of their way to emphasize the opposite.

    It's okay to believe that Palm Inc will never put out another PalmOS device. But that would be a guess not based on anything they actually said.
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    Palm OS is the "Apple" of treos
    "When Palm announced today that its new smartphone would run an operating system from Microsoft, it was the equivalent of Coca-Cola agreeing to fill its bottles with Pepsi." ~David M. Ewalt, Forbes Magazine
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