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  1.    #1  
    Last week, I made a payment using PayPal for a service for a Treo application. This part was fine.

    However, recently in the past 2 days, I've been getting emails (see below) claiming I've added "ITmegadiscount@aol.com" to my PayPal account. This is absolutely false, and obviously someone is trying to scam me.

    I've forwarded the below email to PayPay's support dept, and they have confirmed the email is a fraud. I've since changed all my passwords at PayPal's website.

    If I recall correctly, I think the legitimate PayPal website address is: https://www.paypal.com/us/

    False PayPay websites do not have the "/us" ending at the end of the address. Is this true??

    Has anyone else encountered this? I really hate using PayPal, and only used it one time last week because the software developer insisted on that as payment method.

    See below email I received, which is bogus:

    From: "email@paypal.com" <email@paypal.com>
    Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:07:35 -0700
    Subj: New email address added to your account

    You have added ITmegadiscount@aol.com as a new email address for your
    PayPal account.

    If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with
    your account, please contact PayPal customer service at:

    https://www.paypal.com/row/wf/f=ap_email


    Thank you for using PayPal!
    The PayPal Team


    Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be
    answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the
    "Help" link in the header of any page.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    PROTECT YOUR PASSWORD

    NEVER give your password to anyone and ONLY log in at
    https://www. paypal.com/ Protect yourself against fraudulent websites
    by opening a new web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer or Netscape) and typing
    in the PayPal URL every time you log in to your account.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------


    PayPal Email ID PP109
  2. #2  
    Cripes! That's your FIRST paypal phishing email!?!?!? Consider yourself lucky up until now.
  3. #3  
    yeah this is pretty common. Usually what happens is the paypal link will look legit, but when you click on it, it doesn't take you where you think it is. The link will say www.paypal.com but when you click on it it sends you to some crooks webserver. You can usually tell because your browser will have an IP address in the address bar rather than www.paypal.com/etc....
  4.    #4  
    Yes, this is the first bogus email I received, which I immediately received very shortly after doing my first PayPal transaction. Doesn't this seem too much of a coincidence? I'm not blaming the person I sent payment to, whom I believe to be legitimate. But how could I have received this bogus email immediately after doing my one and only PayPal transaction last week?

    I'm also a little relieved to know I'm not the only target. It's just that I'm not used to getting these. I am very wary of ever using PayPal again.
  5. #5  
    NO NO NO!!! The .US extension is what the scammer is using.

    Are you really that confused, or is this post itself a scam?

    DON'T ever log into a paypal.us site. The ONLY legitimate paypal login is http://www.paypal.com . Any URL that has anything else following it is probably part of a scam.
    Bob Meyer
    I'm out of my mind. But feel free to leave a message.
  6. #6  
    Forward the full headers and the fake message to abuse@paypal.com
  7. #7  
    If it is out of the U.S. little, or nothing can be done.
  8.    #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb
    NO NO NO!!! The .US extension is what the scammer is using.

    Are you really that confused, or is this post itself a scam?

    DON'T ever log into a paypal.us site. The ONLY legitimate paypal login is http://www.paypal.com . Any URL that has anything else following it is probably part of a scam.
    Oh No! Now, I am confused! I don't know anymore what the legitimate website is. No, this post itself is not a scam. I am who I say I am, and I really did get a bogus email addressed to me.

    How do I close a PayPal account? I don't trust this service anymore. Can someone send me the exact link to close the account please? The legitimate link, of course!

    -Casey Cheung
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    To avoid scam sites, always type in the website address you know to be correct, and don't just click on the link in the email.
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  10.    #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by darnell
    Forward the full headers and the fake message to abuse@paypal.com
    I went to PayPay's website (hopefully the right one), and filled out a problem/complaint form. Today, I received the following reply (see below). Someone named Charles wrote me the below message.

    Does the below reply message seem legitimate to you guys?

    By the way, I want to emphasize to everyone: This post is not a scam, and I am the legimate poster of this message. If you check my history, I have posted over 300 replies to all sorts of topics on this forum.

    Thanks, Casey

    SEE BELOW FOR THE REPLY I RECEIVED:

    From: "webform@paypal.com" <webform@paypal.com>
    To: "Casey Cheung" <cheungcs@aol.com>
    Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:29:25 -0500
    Subj: Re: Protections/Privacy/Security (Routing Code:C840-L001-Q470-T3950-S111) QID118 (KMM6634097V52055L0KM)

    Dear Casey Cheung,

    Thank you for contacting PayPal. This email did not come from PayPal, it is
    a spoof email. This email address was not added to your PayPal account. I
    have included information regarding spoof emails for your review.

    Please remember these steps to help protect your PayPal account from
    Unauthorized Account Access.

    Emails - Make sure they are sent from PayPal

    1. If you receive an email and are unsure whether it is from PayPal,
    open a new web browser (e.g., Internet Explorer or Netscape) and type in
    the following: https://www.paypal.com/ Don't click on any link in an email
    which seems suspicious to you.

    2. Some spoof websites will send emails that pretend to come from
    PayPal to entice you to log in at the spoof URL. Be extremely cautious of
    emails that direct you to a website that asks for sensitive information.

    3. Stay safe; don't respond to emails asking for any of the following:

    Your password and email address combination
    Credit card numbers
    Bank account numbers
    Social security numbers
    Drivers license number
    First and Last Names

    If you have surrendered financial or password information to a suspicious
    email or website, promptly report this to the issuing institution as well
    as change your password and secret answers on your PayPal account. This can
    be completed in the Profile section of your account.

    Email Greeting -

    PayPal will never send you an email with the greeting "Dear PayPal
    User" or "Dear PayPal Member". Emails initiated by PayPal will address you
    by your first and last name, or the business name associated with your
    PayPal account.

    Please note that the automatic response you get from us may not
    address you by name.
    Always log into the PayPal site

    PayPal will only ask for information AFTER you have securely logged
    in.

    For your security, PayPal will never ask you to re-enter your full
    bank account, credit, or debit card number without providing you at least
    the LAST TWO DIGITS of the number. These digits let you know that we
    already know the full number and are asking you for the rest of it. Beware
    of any website or email asking for these numbers for "verification" that
    does not PROVE that it knows the number by providing at least the last two
    digits

    Use Account Guard on the eBay toolbar. If you use Internet Explorer,
    download the eBay toolbar. Account Guard helps ensure you are on PayPal or
    eBay

    Website pages - make sure that they are hosted by PayPal

    1. When using the PayPal service, always ensure that the url address
    listed at the top of the browser is
    https://www.paypal.com/ The 's' ensures that the website is secure. Even if
    the URL contains the word 'PayPal', it may not be a PayPal webpage.

    2. Look for the 'lock' symbol that appears in the lower right hand
    corner of the browser. This symbol indicates that it is a secure site.

    Do not download attachments, software updates, or any application to your
    computer via a link you received in an email. PayPal will never send you an
    attachment or software update to install on your computer.

    Passwords - keep it on PayPal

    1. Use a unique password for the PayPal account and change it every
    30-60 days.
    2. The password should be one that is not used on any other site,
    service, or login.

    If you think you have received a fraudulent email including the header
    information or the site's URL, please forward the original email to
    spoof@paypal.com and then delete the email from your mailbox. Never click
    any links or attachments in a suspicious email.

    Please let me know if you need further assistance.

    Sincerely,
    Charles
    PayPal Resolution Services
    PayPal, an eBay Company


    Original Message Follows:
    ------------------------
    Form Message
    customer subject: Please delete ITmegadiscount@aol.com from my acct
    customer message: The web address (URL) of the site you are reporting:
    'ITmegadiscount@aol.com (Email)'
    Additional Information: 'I received an email today claiming I've added
    "ITmegadiscount@aol.com" to my account. This is FALSE, as I've never added
    this to my account. Please delete the above email address entirely. Thank
    you, Casey Cheung.

    Here is a copy of the false email message:
    >From: "service@paypal.com" <service@paypal.com>
    >Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:29:09 -0700
    >Subj: New email address added to your account
    >
    >You have added ITmegadiscount@aol.com as a new email address for your
    >PayPal account.
    >
    >If you did not authorize this change or if you need assistance with
    >your account, please contact PayPal customer service at:
    >
    >https://www.paypal.com/row/wf/f=ap_email
    >
    >
    >Thank you for using PayPal!
    >The PayPal Team
    >
    >
    >Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be
    >answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the
    >"Help" link in the header of any page.
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------
    > PROTECT YOUR PASSWORD
    >
    > NEVER give your password to anyone and ONLY log in at
    >https://www. paypal.com/ Protect yourself against fraudulent websites
    >by opening a new web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer or Netscape) and
    typing
    >in the PayPal URL every time you log in to your account.
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
    >PayPal Email ID PP109'
  11. #11  
    Just start with the home page: www.paypal.com and follow the links from there.

    As long as you ALWAYS start your paypal activity from that page, rather than from a link in an email, you don't really have to worry. I've never had any problems with PayPal fraud at all.

    And realize it's not just PayPal. Vigilence is the cost of doing any kind of business on the internet. I've seen scam emails for bank sites, credit card web sites, brokerage sites, Amazon, you name it. Not to mention the Nigerian oil money emails (my son recently got a variation on this that claimed to be from Ireland rather than Nigeria), "You've won the Euro Lottery" emails, and more.

    It's unfortunate, but the flip side of the convenience the internet offers legitimate users is the convenience it offers thieves. If you're afraid to use paypal, you may as well be afraid to buy or sell anything on the internet.
    Bob Meyer
    I'm out of my mind. But feel free to leave a message.
  12. #12  
    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    I went to PayPay's website (hopefully the right one), and filled out a problem/complaint form.
    Yea that's fine.

    The odds are very very low, but maybe they can track the scammer down.
  13. #13  
    I get 'phishing' emails from paypal and ebay ALL THE TIME.

    My gmail spam filter seems to filter them pretty well though.
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  14. #14  
    Ignore the .us comment. The poster misread your copy/paste.

    This is most likely a coincedence. I do NO business with paypal and get these all the time.

    Just type paypal.com and you will be on the correct site.
  15. #15  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Ignore the .us comment. The poster misread your copy/paste.

    This is most likely a coincedence. I do NO business with paypal and get these all the time.

    Just type paypal.com and you will be on the correct site.
    If you're referring to me as the one who 'misread the quote', I think you're mistaken. Here's what the original poster wrote:

    If I recall correctly, I think the legitimate PayPal website address is: https://www.paypal.com/us/

    False PayPay websites do not have the "/us" ending at the end of the address. Is this true??
    These lines are NOT part of his quoted email, they are his original text. The quoted part starts lower, after "See below email I received, which is bogus:" So anyone who followed his advice and logged in through the .us site would be exposing themselves to phishing.
    Bob Meyer
    I'm out of my mind. But feel free to leave a message.
  16. #16  
    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb
    If you're referring to me as the one who 'misread the quote', I think you're mistaken. Here's what the original poster wrote:


    These lines are NOT part of his quoted email, they are his original text. The quoted part starts lower, after "See below email I received, which is bogus:" So anyone who followed his advice and logged in through the .us site would be exposing themselves to phishing.
    The link text from the quoted phishing email does not end in .us it ends in .com/us which is where you will land if you type paypal.com in your browser.
  17.    #17  
    Yes, I had originally thought the correct website included the "./us" ending. I had gotten this from some email. However, I obviously don't know whether this is correct or not, as others have pointed out that the correct address should not include the "./us" ending.
  18. #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by Casey Cheung
    Yes, I had originally thought the correct website included the "./us" ending. I had gotten this from some email. However, I obviously don't know whether this is correct or not, as others have pointed out that the correct address should not include the "./us" ending.
    You're now typing both a "." and a "/" which will only confuse the issue more.

    A "./us" will not resolve.

    Just type paypal.com and you'll be fine. Jeebus, it's just a spam/phish mail and we've now all lost minutes out of our lives we won't get back.
  19. #19  
    This is not the worst of the Pay Pal problems. I made a payment via paypal aprox. 2 years ago for something I bought on Ebay. About 6 months later, over $600 was charged to my credit card that was linked to that paypal account. It took me weeks to get credited, etc. To make matters worse, after eveything was fixed, PAYPAL decided to send my account information to a collection agency. They said that since the credit card company had charged back the $600, I now owed them the money.
    That took months to fix.
    Beware paypal.
  20. #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by nickf126
    This is not the worst of the Pay Pal problems. I made a payment via paypal aprox. 2 years ago for something I bought on Ebay. About 6 months later, over $600 was charged to my credit card that was linked to that paypal account. It took me weeks to get credited, etc. To make matters worse, after eveything was fixed, PAYPAL decided to send my account information to a collection agency. They said that since the credit card company had charged back the $600, I now owed them the money.
    That took months to fix.
    Beware paypal.
    DITTO! PayPal is NOT as safe as people think it is. I've known plenty of people who've been screwed using it.
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