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    I am an early Treo 600 GSM user, because I liked the idea of having one gadget for my diary/ address book and for voice and some data comms. And it synchs well with my Mac.

    But look at the latest HP offerings, not on Palm OS, but on Windows, and it would seem Palm is on its way out, possible move to Linux or not.

    Take the Treo 650. It does have GSM soon and Bluetooth, but not WiFi. That is another plug in. Battery life used to be one other thing in favour of Palm vs Windows Mobile, but not any more ... and then there are applications ... I see a lot of people using their PDA/ smartphone as a GPS device, and a lot of them on Windows ...

    Will Palm get further marginalised and become a bit Apple like?

    Apple survived, until this iTunes stuff, based on a core set of followers and a superior computing experience. The boxes also come with pretty much all communications options one could want, and continue to out sexy PCs, and you can even run Windoze on it ... Moreover a fully loaded Mac outperforms a PC general ...

    Will Palm still exist in 3 years time?
    Last edited by jnobel; 01/19/2005 at 05:22 AM.
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    Mmmm this is your first post here?
    Sounds like trolling to me... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now, but be warned not to overstep your welcome...
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    it must be the red army toolkit! @ least it was posted in treo gen chat.. give him points for selecting the correct forum... then we can lynch him lol
    so toolkit... did SV finally decide to play elsewhere?
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    lolzzzzz @ johnski1969. Give him a chance, its his first time :-).
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    Hi Johnski1969, silly question, what do you mean by red army toolkit? Jnobel
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnobel
    Hi Johnski1969, silly question, what do you mean by red army toolkit? Jnobel
    ToolkiT being me, red army as in the communists.. he missed a comma..
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    OK, I've been hearing this "Palm is Dead" song and dance since the days when PDABuzz.com was run by the great Wes Salmon. The fact that Sony dropped out of the US market is a bummer but PalmOne is still the #1 seller of pdas worldwide and has moved more units than any other manufacturer (PalmOS or PPC). Do I need to remind you that Goliath did fall under David's sling?

    Long live PalmOne, PalmSource, and the Palm OS!
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    Hello,

    Not to encourage the trollers but has anyone seen a comparison of a windows plamtop and the treo? Has anyone discussed it here? (i'd search but I'm lazy and don't know the brand names of any MS offerings)
    Palm M100 --> GSM Treo 600 --> GSM Treo 650 --> GSM Treo 680
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    Isn't the original post somewhat misleading? Okay, the new HP does run WM2003, but all HP's have run PPC-OS.

    Trolling AND misleading...good job!!
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    His point was not to compare HP to Palm.
    His point was to say:
    Think of a list of all the latest pda's that are generally considered 'hot'.
    Why does the list seem to be 99% PocketPC?

    Of course thats a textbook troll but as long as he's not a troll it's a valid question.

    Now that "file link" is gone from palm desktop, and my best hope, a $70 3rd party syncer IntelliSync turns out not to sync from text files either, I have very little reason to stick with Palm myself, and as a die hard unix guy, Palm always appealed to me on general principles. But my big draw was it was easier to interoperate with it from unix. There are some linux utils for dealing with palm files and a cross development kit, (syncing directly with unix instead of using a pc isn't too important to me but they have that too) and the aforementioned file link feature in hotsync manager that lets me create a csv file, and hotsync will read it and update the pda from it. VS ppc where the choices are like the colors of the early Fords. ("Any color in the rainbow as long as it's black." so, "Any way you want as long as it's MS Outlook") I have NO way to sync outlook to a set of data on unix. Best I can do is manually navigate all the steps of an import. No good at all for clients even if _I_ was willing to do that all the time which I'm not.

    Now that I can't do that anymore Palm is probably _less_ flexible all in all. I bet at least for ppc I can find some 3rd party sync add-on that does what I want.
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    I wouldn't quite agree with you Key that 99% of whats hot these days are PPC's. Trust me, I'm as big a PPC guy as you'll probably find on this board, however you should hear the talks we've had. Sonys UX40/50 with its clamshell design. The resolution of the newer POS devices, (although PPC's have gone into VGA now). The Tungsten slider (like it or nor, still an innovation.)

    We (the PPC users) had been forever locked into 320X240 since CE2.11, while the POS devices jumped past us. Landscape ability built in. Zodiacs and Garmins. Sony continually putting out a new flavor every month, while PPC makers were slow, or falling out of the market.

    I think the grass sometimes is greener. Personally, I get a bit more excited over the new products from PalmOne right now then anything on the WM2003 side. I still prefer the WM2003 devices, but the Treo is still to me the hands down king of the PDA/Phone world. A keyboard is all but a must to me with a device like this. The HP 6315 was the first WM2003 phone device I was even considering, however the removable keyboard put me off.
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    How can anyone come to TreoLand and claim that Palm is dead? Why does there hafta be a war between the two OS's? Each OS has its merits. Cobalt seems to be promsing to rival WM2003.

    I used both ppc and palm. My preference to one over the other is only in certain features, but never overall...this OS is dead, this OS is a killer. Until WM acts like my Win XP pro on my laptop I won't consider it fully mature. Palm never claimed to rival your desktop OS.
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    ok
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    Wow, you would give that the benefit of the doubt??

    Seriously, this is more of a TREO orientated site than anything else, eventhough it's in the correct forum, i dont think it is valid general chat (in the way that it was presented).

    I wouldnt consider Toolkit the least bit Red Army-ish. I would have sent a PM to this guy with a attachment for code of conduct. It's not just trolling, I think it's a sneaky flame bait.

    Very low and very conniving. Sounds like a true M$ pupil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pda_jedi
    Long live PalmOne, PalmSource, and the Palm OS!
    I second that. I've used a palm since my freshman year of college (5 yrs ago). With the addition of the Treo 650, the palm OS is getting beefier and more powerful. I'm still in awe of this thing and the software availability is second to none.

    I'm a Palm OS user for life!
    ~Steve
    Get @ me
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    Steve, you need to update your Avatar to show the 650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnobel
    But look at the latest HP offerings, not on Palm OS, but on Windows, and it would seem Palm is on its way out, possible move to Linux or not.

    Umm... the last time I checked HP didn't have anything other than that 6300 brick that could compare to the Treo line...
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    I can't wait till we get a Treo that has Palm OS Cobalt. It probably will have EV-DO compatibility as well. In theory, we should be able to talk on the phone, surf the web, switch to another app with the multitasking, then return to the web (at 300-500 kbps).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pda_jedi
    I can't wait till we get a Treo that has Palm OS Cobalt. It probably will have EV-DO compatibility as well. In theory, we should be able to talk on the phone, surf the web, switch to another app with the multitasking, then return to the web (at 300-500 kbps).

    Actually NO. 1xEvDo does NOT support both simutaneious voice and data conencitons. For that you would need 1xEvDv. However, there has been some discussion that there will be backward compatibilty with 1xrtt to allow simutaneous V+D...
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