I have seen a lot of discussions on how quiet the ringtones are on the treo 600.

I can not even hear them when the phone is attached to my belt holster. The vibrate feature is not strong either.

I have raised the volume to the loudest and it is nowhere near as loud as my old Motorola V60. Can someone make a very loud ringtone and post it for download or is the speaker on the Treo 600 not able to handle it?

No music tones - just a real ring tone that wont embarrase me when it rings