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  1. utey's Avatar
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    #21  
    Originally posted by mblank
    It may not be good for us Treo users, but it's a very smart business move for both of them.
    I think it is great for us. Clearly Palm knows that pda/cell phones are a growing segment.

    Now they will sync (pun intended) in some serious resources in developing the communicator further than Handspring alone could take it.

    I for one am pleased by this!
    Grace & Peace,

    utey
  2. #22  
    the reason is:

    1. carry a pda/phone with a decent phone size, which is much smaller than any product on other platform (SE P800/Nokia 7650 etc.).

    2. plenty of palm applications. download througn air from palmgear.

    3. *Probably* watch news video through high-speed sprint network every morning, instead of switching on and sitting before your TV. Thanks to the low-res screen which simply reduce the memory bandwidth requirement to 1/4, also thanks to the huge battery volume. They make the application more *practical* than any other device does.

    4. fast messaging. You all are fimilar with this. (If you need this, go Treo 600, if not, choose samsung i500)

    Originally posted by pixelsRZen
    Palm buys Handspring: yuck

    Treo 600: yuck

    Sorry to be so negative, but I originally chose Handspring as a better alternative to Palm. As far as the 600 is concerned, at least at this early stage of preview/development it looks like everythinge else being introduced. What is the compelling reason to buy this smartphone over another? And CDMA? another yuck (at least for me).

    What's that Sony/Ericsson URL again?

    Hope this turns out better than I expect it to.
  3. #23  
    Well, the Treo was wonderful while it lasted...

    Palm has shown how to blow a lead in the marketplace.
    They effectively will kill Handspring, which had a different mantra and was run differently.

    This will not bode well for the future Treo, which is really sad to see. I was so looking forward to the next Treo.

    I hope I'm wrong, but these things rarely work out.
  4. #24  
    The Tungsten released for AT&T sucks though. Has the 2032 style where you have to use headset or speakerphone. It only has 256 colors, and it's more expensive. Also, there's nothing protecting the keyboard so while in your pocket buttons are constantly being pressed.

    I hope they build the future products off of the treo and not off of that AT&T phone.
  5. #25  
    Originally posted by pixelsRZen
    Palm buys Handspring: yuck
    Treo 600: yuck
    ...
    What's that Sony/Ericsson URL again?
    Keep in mind that Sony Ericsson has never been profitable (recently needed a cash infusion of $350 M). What it comes down to is this -- the PDA/phone/converged devices market is tough right now (REEEAL TOUGH to be sure). There's no doubt in my mind that both companies were looking for innovative ways to survive this period. Some day soon, maybe in a couple of years, PDA's and converged devices will be ubiquitous like their older brother -- the good ol' PC -- but until that day, its going to take drastic steps like this merger to survive.

    One more thing. It's clear from reading this board that everyone wants different things from their device. Some want Bluetooth, others don't want MP3. Some want hi res screens, others are willing to trade hi res for longer battery life. I'm hoping that by merging Palm and HS, the new company will be able to offer a customizable line of devices (kinda like Dell PC's) where the consumer can select the features that are personally important. I know, I know, that's a lot of hoping, but at a minimum, I'm sure the new company will offer a wider selection of models to choose from.
    go.digital
  6. #26  
    Immediately following the completion of the spin-off, Handspring will be merged with Palm, and the merged company will be renamed later in the year.
    They should have a contest for what the new company name will be: they could award the winner the first available Treo600 (cash would be nice too )

    Any suggestions???

    Let's see... you've got:
    ARM processors
    HAND joining
    PALM -- looks like the next logical step is...
    FINGER ... sounds catchy no?
    go.digital
  7. #27  
    Those of you with subscriptions to The Wall Street Journal Online can check out the Palm-Handspring conference-call transcript. It's a PDF.
  8. #28  
    Well, was there really any doubt this day would come? It was either this...or eventual bankruptcy. Handspring was a dying company.

    At least through an acquisition, something productive will come from HS's Treo efforts. It will be interesting to see how Palm SG (or whatever new name they go by) will integrate...or assimilate Treo into their product line. This could spell a very short life the Tungsten W series.
  9. #29  
    Originally posted by dulan


    They should have a contest for what the new company name will be: they could award the winner the first available Treo600 (cash would be nice too )

    Any suggestions???

    Let's see... you've got:
    ARM processors
    HAND joining
    PALM -- looks like the next logical step is...
    FINGER ... sounds catchy no?
    I guess "Palm Springs" would be too corny?
  10. #30  
    Originally posted by Kupe
    How interesting. Donna and Jeff form Palm, leave Palm in a huff when the board doesn't see things their way, then head back to Palm to rescue them when the ideas they originally tried to foist on Palm fall flat in the marketplace. I wonder why Palm would buy them back? Kupe
    Fraid you got that backwards Kupe.

    Palm flourished after Jeff and Donna left because of the products they created. But a company must keep coming out with great products year after year, and Palm was stagnant under the bad management of Eric B. Great ideas don't save companies, great products do, and with Jeff Hawkins back, Palm is likely to have more great products than they would otherwise. The street understands this and thats why Palm is up 20% today.
  11. #31  
    I guess they feel like they need to come up with a new name, but I don't see why. They're not going to abandon the Palm brand name--indeed, the Handspring folks were eagerly talking about how great it will be to offer Palm Treos--so they should just call it Palm Inc.
  12. #32  
    This is a buy-out, despite what they are now saying. Palm is buying Handspring, period. Just like other so-called mergers (BP and Amoco anyone?) in a year or two Handspring will be a memory - but you'll still have Palm, Inc.
  13. #33  
    Personally, I think this is a good move, but it'll be curious to see what kind of products that will emerge from this merger.

    I see Handspring joining forces with Palm's manufacturing and marketing forces and Palm joining Handspring's design strengths.

    Funny thing is that I think remember a few articles awhile back saying that this would happen and that a catalyst would be that Handspring wouldn't have to pay for the Palm OS licensing. If my understanding is correct, this new merged company will still have to pay fees to the new Palm Source company. Of course, I would expect a pretty nice discount

    I just hope for better customer service, along with the products, of course

    (I know this is a double-post, but I didn't see this thread earlier)
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    #34  
    The new name of the company is rumored to be called PALM SPRINGS
  15. #35  
    Originally posted by foo fighter
    At least through an acquisition, something productive will come from HS's Treo efforts. It will be interesting to see how Palm SG (or whatever new name they go by) will integrate...or assimilate Treo into their product line. This could spell a very short life the Tungsten W series.
    Foo,

    I think you're completely right about that point! Everyone keeps harping about the future of the Treo line post acquisition, when the real issue whether the new company will continue the TW line! I seriously dobt b/c the Treo is by far teh duperior line IMO. No if they would only put the TW screen in the Treo 600?!!

    P.S. Oh btw Foo, you should really check out this thread. Seems like you're famous or soemthing...
    Last edited by Gaurav; 06/04/2003 at 06:57 PM.
  16. #36  
    Originally posted by KRamsauer
    I guess "Palm Springs" would be too corny?
    You beat me to it...

    also saw the same remark here:
    http://www.auspug.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2307
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  17. #37  
    The issue here is that the three palm attempts to create wireless (7, 705, TW) have all be abysmal failures. Mainly because Palm could get cheaper wireless time and remained focused on selling the products and not relationships with wirless companies. In a year and a half HS has done an incredible job with that. HS gets out from under a money crunch and Palm shores up a weak wireless division. Sounds positive to me.

    Kevin
    Last edited by J. Kevin Wolfe; 06/05/2003 at 01:39 PM.
  18. #38  
    Originally posted by jdeluna
    The new name of the company is rumored to be called PALM SPRINGS
    With a product like: TunTreogsten 800
    Ouch...
    m00se
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  19. #39  
    Originally posted by silverado
    I didn't see anything re Donna remaining in the company.
    Ms. Dubinsky, Handspring's CEO, will take a Palm board seat. Two members of Handspring's board, J. Doerr and B. Dunlevie, will also join the Palm's board.

    m00se
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