Don't Believe the 4G Hype

**berdinkerdickle** · 06:53 PM

It ain't nothin

kevets · 02/13/2013, 09:32 AM

Is that sarcasm?

**HelloNNNewman** · 02/13/2013, 10:48 AM

What is this 4G you speak of? 'Tis foreign speak to us Sprint FrankenPre2 users.

geekpeter · 02/13/2013, 10:54 AM

4g always makes me laugh, sure for some home user downloading a PC game thats a few GB, the speeds useful, but what in the name of all thats weird, is that speed required for on a mobile phone? it does what? shave a few ms off showing a website? download angry birds a few seconds faster?

tv/netflix is already good enough on hsdpa or god forbid *gasp* wifi, 3G/HSDPA is good enough tbh.

GMMan · 02/13/2013, 11:11 AM

4G is relatively expensive for the price of data used compared to residential, isn't it?

**HelloNNNewman** · 02/13/2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by geekpeter

4g always makes me laugh, sure for some home user downloading a PC game thats a few GB, the speeds useful, but what in the name of all thats weird, is that speed required for on a mobile phone? it does what? shave a few ms off showing a website? download angry birds a few seconds faster?

tv/netflix is already good enough on hsdpa or god forbid *gasp* wifi, 3G/HSDPA is good enough tbh.

Helps quite a bit for business users. Our company has a couple of sites we need to log into for service calls and it takes forever on 3G (or less). On a 4G connection, I can pull up the site, check the service call tag and do what needs to be done before the 3G phone finishes pulling up the main page.

xortenterprises · 02/13/2013, 01:46 PM

I agree, somewhat, that 3G is not the mobile panacea. The biggest benefit for a data connection like that is for streaming and most people are going to avoid that on a cell connection since it's a great way to chew up your monthly data allowance.

You notice that when you try to connect over 3g the waiting is always done at the beginning. Once you get going, everything is pretty smooth. The biggest thing LTE has going for it is that relatively few people actually use it, so it's easy to connect. When you try to get something over 3G your device has to wait in line to deal with the tower, because 3G is used by everyone around you too. That's why the phone companies try so hard to get everyone to use wifi - to help congestion.

Once LTE is used more widely, it will start to show the same problems.

**berdinkerdickle** · 02/13/2013, 02:55 PM

I live in the boonies.
No hard line.
I need 4G.
I email big files in and out on my phone.
4G makes a huge difference on my cell phone.
.
I posted that pic above, because that was one of the fastest speeds I've gotten.

.
Yes, it was sarcasm.
Those speeds are impressive.

geekpeter · 02/13/2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HelloNNNewman

Helps quite a bit for business users. Our company has a couple of sites we need to log into for service calls and it takes forever on 3G (or less). On a 4G connection, I can pull up the site, check the service call tag and do what needs to be done before the 3G phone finishes pulling up the main page.

those must be quite some hefty webpages, ive always thought that even up to 8mb/s i get on hsdpa is more than enough for pretty much anything, even my laptop tethered to my phone and/or mifi (also hsdpa) was just as fast as using my home router for pretty much everything except bulk downloads.

**HelloNNNewman** · 02/13/2013, 04:07 PM

Not sure how heavy the pages are (I'm pretty sure they are pretty loaded).... but when I put my Pre2 next to another work phone with 4G, the difference in speed is night and day. I struggle to get anything done on a 3G phone now a days. Even using a (mobile) banking site like BoA is so slooooooow on 3G.

sledge007 · 02/13/2013, 06:04 PM

When I broke my SGS3, went back to my Pre3 for 5 days.....um yes.....there is a difference....and it was more than a couple of ms, I can guarantee that. Once you get used to LTE, going backwards is like going to dial up. It might not seem like that big of a deal for you, but for me it was.....shrugs.

kataran · 02/14/2013, 11:42 AM

so no-one misses fixing a sandwich while waiting on there 14.4 dial up modem to load

geekpeter · 02/14/2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kataran

so no-one misses fixing a sandwich while waiting on there 14.4 dial up modem to load

i threw an old one out last year i still had in storage, dont know why i horde stuff ill never use, esp tech stuff.

Grabber5.0 · 02/14/2013, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geekpeter

i threw an old one out last year i still had in storage, dont know why i horde stuff ill never use, esp tech stuff.

Nostalgia.

I still have my first Sprint brick phone and my ION ISH (Integrated Services Hub) - which will never be useful for anything again. Technically the phone could still be used, but I was told that will change when the network upgrades are complete. I believe I still have my first Palm Pilot (a III I believe).

gamer765 · 02/15/2013, 09:44 AM

I still use dial-up and its relatively fast (as long as its not image heavy and I'm not doing other web stuff).

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xortenterprises Member Posts: 20	I agree, somewhat, that 3G is not the mobile panacea. The biggest benefit for a data connection like that is for streaming and most people are going to avoid that on a cell connection since it's a great way to chew up your monthly data allowance. You notice that when you try to connect over 3g the waiting is always done at the beginning. Once you get going, everything is pretty smooth. The biggest thing LTE has going for it is that relatively few people actually use it, so it's easy to connect. When you try to get something over 3G your device has to wait in line to deal with the tower, because 3G is used by everyone around you too. That's why the phone companies try so hard to get everyone to use wifi - to help congestion. Once LTE is used more widely, it will start to show the same problems.
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02/13/2013, 02:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
berdinkerdickle Tazmorator (Leader Emeritus) Posts: 11,057 Global Posts: 11,738	I live in the boonies. No hard line. I need 4G. I email big files in and out on my phone. 4G makes a huge difference on my cell phone. . I posted that pic above, because that was one of the fastest speeds I've gotten. . Yes, it was sarcasm. Those speeds are impressive. __________________ Just call me Berd.
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HelloNNNewman Neumorator Moderator Team Leader Posts: 14,659 Global Posts: 15,061	Not sure how heavy the pages are (I'm pretty sure they are pretty loaded).... but when I put my Pre2 next to another work phone with 4G, the difference in speed is night and day. I struggle to get anything done on a 3G phone now a days. Even using a (mobile) banking site like BoA is so slooooooow on 3G. __________________ Shortest. Marathon. Evar.
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sledge007 Moderator Posts: 6,212 Global Posts: 6,740	When I broke my SGS3, went back to my Pre3 for 5 days.....um yes.....there is a difference....and it was more than a couple of ms, I can guarantee that. Once you get used to LTE, going backwards is like going to dial up. It might not seem like that big of a deal for you, but for me it was.....shrugs.
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