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  1. #61  
    Quote Originally Posted by Spyke View Post
    I'm not sure the Touchpad is even the number 2 tablet. The Asus Transformer is reported to have shipped over a million, with stock running out so sales must be close.

    See this link:

    ASUS Eee Pad Transformer is a Winner for ASUS

    They talk of reporting 800,000 shipments in Q3, doubling those sold (they ran out of stock) in Q2. By all accounts they've continued to sell extremely well.

    The number 3 position is still a worthy slot to hold of course, for the time being, if only it can be built upon.

    Spyke
    And the most of people who bought Transformer, they probably got only one. Tons of people who got the TP firesales, they got more 1. One for themselve, one for backup, one for his wife and one for his 2 years of toddler.

    Even if 1 million TP sold, how many people actually have it right now?
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    #62  
    Quote Originally Posted by LurkerX View Post
    9 million to trash a company. Where can I get a job like that?
    yah! me too looking for a job like that, 1% of that is enough for me, i would buy 2 pre3, 2 pre2, 2 veer, 2 touchpads
  3. #63  
    Quote Originally Posted by vszulc View Post
    Yeah, I don't really see HP bringing back webOS. Not after it so brilliantly demonstrated that people won't pay more than $100-$200 dollars for it.

    That million new Touchpad customers? Well, if you look at these boards as a guideline, then roughly half of them only bought it to put Android on it. Not the past argument for resurrecting webOS.
    (Ironically: The attempt to keep the Touchpad alive: Making it able to dualboot Android, might be what will kill it in the end)
    And even with a million customers, webOS still isn't no.2 on the market. 20-25% of the tablet market belongs to Android tablets according to the newest figures.

    Unfortunately, the only thing that can bring webOS back is a timemachine.
    The 5-600 engineers that were let go are still fired, and even if they would get hired back or whatever, that would still mean that the Touchpad missed at least once, possibly two hardware cycles. You wouldn't see a new Touchpad til christmas 2012 or early 2013. And by then you'll have well over 50 million iPads out there and lord knows how many millions of Android tablets.

    Leo getting rightfully fired might give us some personal satisfaction, but it won't change anything with the webOS situation.
    Ummmm, except for the fact that $250-300 appears to be the price point as per the ebay open market. They certainly could make a go with a price point like that as the marginal loss per unit would be low enough to make the intial device an attractive loss leader to get firmly entrenched into the market.

    And I really don't think that 50% of the people on this board bought their TP to put Android on it.

    Who knows if they will go the direction of bringing it back, but it would be relatively easy at this point. They are still actively manufacturing units, they kept good relations with their manufacturers by honoring their minimum unit contractual obligations, and it is a well known product in consumer marketplace whatever the initial reason may be. It is conceiveble that they could bring it back ASAP, the time is right to. If they wait too long the window of opportunity closes...
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    #64  
    The webos hardware group is gone, that pretty much means no HP webOS hardware ever. Plus carriers now hate HP probably quite a lot.

    While they can have say HTC make the hardware, the webOS/TouchPad name is so tarnished it may be too late.
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    I hope that he is history. From a business point of view he had no vision that included hardware. He touted that he wanted to make HP cool with Consumers like Apple but didn't give that vision a chance. Then he dropped a bomb of the spin-off. I think that HP needs a clear vision that Meg might bring them.
  6. #66  
    Quote Originally Posted by ccx View Post
    even if they fire him he probably has a golden parachute of several million dollars. its so ******** to 'reward' someone like that, even if he is responsible for sinking the titanic (so to speak)
    "There's clear sailing ahead..."
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  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by mosdl View Post
    The webos hardware group is gone, that pretty much means no HP webOS hardware ever. Plus carriers now hate HP probably quite a lot.

    While they can have say HTC make the hardware, the webOS/TouchPad name is so tarnished it may be too late.
    The hardware group being gone primarily means no new webOS hardware is currently in development. Carriers don't care as much as you think, although the whole fire sale was a complete inconvenience, it got so many people through the door. It is just like a christmas sale, except that there was only one product which sold out quickly. I am sure that many of those customers also bought other stuff just from being inside the store. Also, I highly doubt that anyone outside this board or other geek boards really cares about the touchpad image being "tarnished"...
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    #68  
    Quote Originally Posted by LurkerX View Post
    9 million to trash a company. Where can I get a job like that?
    Nokia?
  9. #69  
    It sounds like HP will be selling-auctioning their hardware through Ebay, to me why else would they need her expertise? After they saw that people who had nothing to do with TPs made more money than HP ever did on a single TP maybe they have a different plan now.

    How about the 10 zillion dollares they are spending on Autonomy? THat news came the same day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    I vote for Todd Bradley for new CEO.
    I second that!
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    Layer 8: HP CEO Apotheker on his way out?

    HP CEO Apotheker on his way out?
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    Created Sep 21 2011 - 12:48pm

    A number of sources are reporting this afternoon that Hewlett Packard CEO Leo Apotheker [1] may be on the way out the door after less than a year at that post.

    The HP board is meeting today and considering a CEO move which may include hiring current HP director and ex-eBay CEO Meg Whitman into the position, according to Bloomberg News.

    MarketWatch.com [2] says rumor of the move has caused HP shares to jump some 4%

    From Fortune.com [3]: "The situation appears to be fluid; HP's (HPQ) board plans to meet this afternoon. When reached for comment, an HP spokesperson decline to say anything about the matter. The move would come at a pivotal time for HP, which has struggled to find a path forward. In mid-August, the company announced a vast planned overhaul of its business, agreeing to buy software maker Autonomy Corp. for $10.3 billion, canceling its TouchPad tablet and deciding whether to sell or spin-off its hardware division. The plan, in other words, called for the unraveling of the much-debated 2002 merger with Compaq Computer that helped turn HP into a technology behemoth."

    More on HP's Apotheker: HP's Apotheker changes his tune on mobility [4]

    The move toward a more software-oriented company was met with some disdain [5].

    From Network World: "... it's an uphill climb nonetheless, as software has been responsible for only a small fraction of HP's revenue in years past. In 2010, HP Software generated $3.59 billion in revenue, or 3% of the company's $126 billion total revenue. But it's on the upswing: HP Software logged 20% year-to-year growth and reached $780 million in revenue in the second quarter of 2011, driven by last year's acquisitions of Fortify and ArcSight, notes Jillian Mirandi, an analyst at Technology Business Research (TBR). HP's fastest growing business unit is also its most profitable, with a 19.4% operating profit.

    Follow Michael Cooney on Twitter: nwwlayer8 [6]

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    Looks like he's going after tp disaster.
  14. #74  
    HP's board of directors is where the problem is at, they ultimately decide the direction of the company, not Apotheker. While Apotheker might not have been the best candidate for CEO, I can't help but think that he just simply agreed to take the blame and subsequently be released so that HP can have their scapegoat and now say "look, we got rid of the problem, so investors please starting buying our stock again yayayayayayayayaaa!"
  15. #75  
    List of possible succession candidates mentioned by investors in Bloomberg article:


    Meg Whitman as interim leader not permanent leader as she only has experience in consumer

    Todd Bradley

    David Donatelli who heads servers, storage and networking

    Gary Moore COO of Cisco

    Steve Mills heads software at IBM

    Some investors are mentioning they need a turnaround specialist. If that is the case, none of these guys above may be the right one, they may need someone like Hurd but who focuses more on revenue generation than cost containment, but certainly someone with a turnaround prior record as those are hard to do, if they were easy, someone would have fixed HP a long time ago.

    edit: with a 47% decline, the article mentions that HP is the worst performing stock in the S&P (avg decline is 1.5% but tech stocks are usually more volatile)

    HP Reeling Accelerates CEO Succession Crisis - Bloomberg
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    List of possible succession candidates mentioned by investors in Bloomberg article:


    Meg Whitman as interim leader not permanent leader as she only has experience in consumer

    Todd Bradley

    David Donatelli who heads servers, storage and networking

    Gary Moore COO of Cisco

    Steve Mills heads software at IBM

    Some investors are mentioning they need a turnaround specialist. If that is the case, none of these guys above may be the right one, they may need someone like Hurd but who focuses more on revenue generation than cost containment, but certainly someone with a turnaround prior record as those are hard to do, if they were easy, someone would have fixed HP a long time ago.

    edit: with a 47% decline, the article mentions that HP is the worst performing stock in the S&P (avg decline is 1.5% but tech stocks are usually more volatile)

    HP Reeling Accelerates CEO Succession Crisis - Bloomberg
    Maybe Hurd is the man. He had success with HP.


    -- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
  17. #77  
    Laugh! He screws up HP, and then leaves? Wow, that really sucks for all the workers there that might get laid off.
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    i don't think he left voluntarily lol.
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    Hope he's not replaced by Meg Whitman piece of poo.
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    maybe they should hire Carly Fiorina again lol
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