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    The Pre3 isn't the only device which brand loyal users are waiting for. Anyone that ventures over to crackberry.com certainly sees the antsy impatience of folks that have been waiting for several models from RIM for the past many, many months.

    Across the board, there seems to have been a bit of a slowdown in bringing new gadgets to market. Some of this is certainly due to timing ahead of the new school year, some of it is certainly technical in nature (carrier acceptance, etc). We have all been talking about those elements.

    The one element that hasn't been discussed though is economic.

    Let us suppose for a moment that the financial circus now underway in Washington, DC has a net-worst-affect result (projectionists are not in short supply on this issue). The cost of raw materials would skyrocket beyond any commodity futures contract as a result of a declining dollar. Gold and silver trend up (silver being very important to the electronics industry) and consumer demand evaporates.

    If you're a manufacturer of anything, with any type of significant investment at risk, you've thrown your production schedule out the window and have diverted resources to contain your material costs through speculation and derivatives (similar to how airlines use the system to contain fuel costs) so that you could build at least a little bit of *something* if the stuff does hit the fan.

    A near-to-intermediate-term risk manager at HP, RIM, Apple, et al, has to have been considering these numbers.

    Just a thought...
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    You are right...new phone designs dont just magically fall from the sky theres alot that goes into it.
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    It's true. I've got several friends looking forward to new phones coming out and they're all complaining about delays and the availability dates getting pushed back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    The Pre3 isn't the only device which brand loyal users are waiting for. Anyone that ventures over to crackberry.com certainly sees the antsy impatience of folks that have been waiting for several models from RIM for the past many, many months.

    Across the board, there seems to have been a bit of a slowdown in bringing new gadgets to market. Some of this is certainly due to timing ahead of the new school year, some of it is certainly technical in nature (carrier acceptance, etc). We have all been talking about those elements.

    The one element that hasn't been discussed though is economic.

    Let us suppose for a moment that the financial circus now underway in Washington, DC has a net-worst-affect result (projectionists are not in short supply on this issue). The cost of raw materials would skyrocket beyond any commodity futures contract as a result of a declining dollar. Gold and silver trend up (silver being very important to the electronics industry) and consumer demand evaporates.

    If you're a manufacturer of anything, with any type of significant investment at risk, you've thrown your production schedule out the window and have diverted resources to contain your material costs through speculation and derivatives (similar to how airlines use the system to contain fuel costs) so that you could build at least a little bit of *something* if the sh!t does hit the fan.

    A near-to-intermediate-term risk manager at HP, RIM, Apple, et al, has to have been considering these numbers.

    Just a thought...
    Except Android phones are released every other week whatever the state of the economy...

    Alternate hypotheses:

    iPhone was delayed because the tsunami in Japan earlier this year affected the production of some components which Apple can't get anywhere else.

    RIM's phones were delayed because they've been revamping the software (rejigging BB OS 6.2 as BB OS 7) and trying to get all the different models and versions certified with all the carriers to launch at the same time.

    HP's phone was delayed because they can't get any carrier to care and give subsidies for their products.
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    Interesting hypothesis, but product planning is usually done months in advance and the DC partisan clown show has only been in the news for the past few weeks. The delays for BB and HP have been in process for months now.
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    goodness, how many of these are going to start?

    1. It isn't 'delayed' until it misses a date or is officially rescheduled.

    2. If/when you find a date more granular than 'summer', refer to #1

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    I always read this stupid "carrier reason", but:

    Why use a carrier, when the devices can also be selled through the "normal" computer channels of HP???

    Besides that, nobody in the rest of the world gives a **** on Sprint (or was it Verizon?), so this is also no reason for delaying the device in all other countries!

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    I believe it's all due the lack of people working on it. - I can see this in my company:
    Although you have thousands of employees, only a small group (say 20 people) are actively developing a special product!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimijames View Post
    Interesting hypothesis, but product planning is usually done months in advance and the DC partisan clown show has only been in the news for the past few weeks. The delays for BB and HP have been in process for months now.
    This DC stuff has been on the burner for a while. Derivatives and commodity speculation runs months to years in advance. The timing is what it is...I was just thinking with my keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantaffordit View Post
    goodness, how many of these are going to start?

    1. It isn't 'delayed' until it misses a date or is officially rescheduled.

    2. If/when you find a date more granular than 'summer', refer to #1

    moving and merging ahead...
    You're correct...I should have stated something more like: "Hypothesis Regarding the Pending Release of the Pre3"...

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