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  1.    #1  
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if anyone knows how to tell (most likely through software versions) what is the battery rating of their treo? I talked to a treo rep the other day and he said that all treo's made now have a battery rating of 110 hrs standby time and if you have the earlier treo you can download a patch... I also cannot seem to find the patch...

    Thanks!

    g-girl
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    Unfortuntely, I believe you've fallen prey to an ***** of a rep. I'll assume that he's not actually an employee of Handspring, and really just a salesman at a phone or tech store that was trying to sell you a Treo.

    While I will readily admit ignorance if someone proves me wrong, I have not read or heard about any software patches AT ALL for the Treo, let alone some special patch that doubles battery life. And trust me, if that were true, there would be flashing banners saying so all over this site so that current Treo owners could benefit from it.

    Alas, I think 60hours standby would be a good run on a full charge, even for the "new" versions of the Treo.

    If anyone knows anything different, please post a link to the patch download page on Handspring's site.
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    Maybe the rep is confusing the new ROM for a patch...
    The new ROM supposedly increases your battery life...

    I haven't heard of any patches either..
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    yeah, he probably heard that the new "version" has better battery life, and jumped to his own conclusions. Too bad the new ROM can't be added to an old/original device. Even Handspring can't update an old device since the ROM is a mask-ROM (which means it's flashed during production of the unit with the most recent software, as opposed to the chip factory with software that never changes anyway. mask ROM can never be re-flashed, it's burnt in just like a normal ROM).
    I'm curious as to how the GPRS upgrade will work. I think the GSM radio has a flashable ROM, which might be where the GPRS software goes. Then again, it could just be a patch for current users, and added to the ROM for all new Treos. :\

    -Greg
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    So the newer Treos have 110 hours of standby?!?! They almost doubled the time? Is this true?
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    I have not performed a test, but my Treo, which is a "newer" one as far as I can tell, is unlikely to get anywhere near 100 hours of standby time. As I said before, I think 60 hours is on the high side of what you can expect, and that's when you have a good signal most of the time.
    As far as I know, NO TREOs can boast 100+ hours of standby.
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    The reality of standby time is; they turn it on and leave it completely alone and see how long it will last. This is done with full signal and ideal settings. I'm sure they probably got one to reach that number under those conditions but...

    then there is the real world

    I really am looking forward to the phantom patch though, I want my speaker phone to work BEFORE the call.

    Rod
    "Happy are they whose sins are forgiven, whose wrongs are pardoned"

    Romans 4:7
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    what is the continuous talk time you get with the new battery ?

    Is there any difference between a voice call and data call with reference to battery life ?

    My battery seems to be running out with 45 mins data call. Do I need to ask for a new treo ?
  9. #9  
    This battery life discussion should be empirical, not conceptual. So since it made me curious, and I don't need to use the phone all that much, I turned my treo phone on at 11 AM EDT and am going to try to keep my phone use down to a minimum and see how long the battery lasts.

    BTW, I have seen treo literature claiming 100 hours standby use.

    P.S Has this site been slow recently?
  10. #10  
    P.S Has this site been slow recently? [/B]
    And I thought it was just me! I thought my DSL was acting up or something.

    I have noticed that data calls burn more juice than phone.

    Personally I would be a VERY unhappy customer by now if I was still on my first Treo, as the battery performance was TERRIBLE!! I replaced it due to not knowing if a patch would even possible due to the type of memory AND sheer frustration. Well there is still no patch and I'm still irritated that MY speaker phone will not work until the call connects (when the other person picks up) and others Treo's are.

    The update issue needs to be addressed VERY soon so they can keep the ball rolling. There are a LOT of similar products available already and many more near the end of the pipe...

    I sure dig the little thing... where is that 270?!!

    Rod
    "Happy are they whose sins are forgiven, whose wrongs are pardoned"

    Romans 4:7
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    Originally posted by Veloslave
    Well there is still no patch and I'm still irritated that MY speaker phone will not work until the call connects (when the other person picks up) and others Treo's are.
    What in the world gave you the impression that anyone's Treo can start the speakerphone before the call connects? I know mine can't. The button doesn't even appear until the other person picks up the phone to connect the call. If that's not true for all Treo's, then I'll be on the phone with Handspring right away to get a new one... mine just went dead. ;-)
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    I found this @ TreoMB TreoMB
    For anyone interested.

    ??

    Rod
    "Happy are they whose sins are forgiven, whose wrongs are pardoned"

    Romans 4:7
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    If the speakerphone button doesn't even appear until the other person picks up the phone to connect the call - it means u have not the latest ROM ver.

    Zsolt
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    Originally posted by zsozso
    If the speakerphone button doesn't even appear until the other person picks up the phone to connect the call - it means u have not the latest ROM ver.
    Wrong. The user posting the Speakerphone option (which I think is bo-o-o-o-gus) claims he has Phonebook version 3.5H4, same as I have, and I don't have the speakerphone option.

    Unless there is another version that says 3.5H4.

    I'm not even sure how to invoke this pre-connect speakerphone option anyway.

    -G
    Impatience makes you UGLY.
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    Beleive me, it depends what Rom version u have. Normally newer Treo all they have this option.

    Zsolt
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    zsolt,

    How do you know this?? I was under the impression that you don't have the newer ROM version and have been trying to get updated software patches.

    I'm from Singapore and had my original TREO flashed by GrandTech. I do not know if they flashed the Treo ROM or the GSM Radio ROM. But they did something to it and I have the updated versions of the various apps like phonebook and language picker etc.

    But I still CANNOT use the speakerphone until the other party picks up the phone.

    I do remember reading the post that someone claimed his Treo could do this, but this person has not given any more info and I haven't come across anyone else who can use the speakerphone before connection.
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    I have just got the newest ROm file from Handspring (develper) and this features in there...


    Zsolt
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    I did a little test of actual standby battery life. Since I wanted to charge the phone for use today, I ended it prematurely last night, when the phone had been on standby for 61 consecutive hours. The battery indicator still had some juice showing (two rows of pixels) – I’m not sure just how much longer it could have gone. This was with moderate use of the Treo as a PDA, a handful of synchs, and a very brief amount of actual phone use. In case it matters, for most of the time the phone signal was roughly of medium intensity, while for a few hours a day it couldn’t find a cell at all.

    I take away two things from this. First, given that in real life I would never expect to leave it on standby overnight, the Treo battery’s standby life doesn’t seem like a problem to me – I am likely to need to recharge for other reason before that constraint becomes binding.

    The other thing is that this is the earliest I have even adopted a new technology, and I feel lucky that it was just long enough for HS to make some important improvements and for some price promotions to come along. Since the promotions seem to be mostly financed by VoiceStream, I can’t fault HS for them. However, I do think that those who bought the first Treos with the limited standby life did get screwed, and that HS should one way or another make them whole (or the owners should be very squeaky wheels until HS decides that it is easier to satisfy them than to keep putting up with them). That saying about never buying release 1.0 of software applies here as well (I guess that I just barely and luckily got 1.1 or 1.2).
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    Originally posted by zsozso
    I have just got the newest ROm file from Handspring (develper) and this features in there...
    OK, I'll bite.

    1) What ROM version do you have?
    (open Notes, type 's' then the 0/... and select the shortcut, then type '.' and '6')

    I have the 2/5/02 6:31pm ROM and do not have the pre-connect speakerphone option.

    2) Describe exactly how the speakerphone option works. Add photos if you have them, please.

    I haven't spoken to Handspring about this because it isn't critical
    and I won't waste the time of people who need to get through more than me.
    But I suspect HS tech doesn't know anything about it.
    Impatience makes you UGLY.
  20. #20  
    I've found that with light to moderate use of the Treo that a 60+ hour window between recharges is possible. As a point of reference, my old Nokia 6160 got about 4 days (96 hours) between recharges with the same usage pattern.

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