View Poll Results: 800w to Pro to Pre / Or Not

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  • I'm passing up the Pro and getting the Pre

    16 45.71%
  • I'm Sticking with my 800w for awhile

    8 22.86%
  • I want the Pro and may get the Pre later

    8 22.86%
  • I'm Sticking with what I have

    3 8.57%
  • I lost my interest in Palm

    0 0%
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  1.    #1  
    I put this in "Palm General Chat" because I don't think it would get the spectrum of audience it needs to have the poll better reflect Palm users plans.

    An interesting observation was made by Aviator over in the Pro Forums.
    He made the comment that there is 'so few posts everyday' in the Pro forums.

    Normally, when a Release is highly anticipated the threads would be booming with activity, something we see with the Pre.

    So I think a poll asking what your upgrade plans are would be interesting to note.
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  2. #2  
    The choices are too limited to cast my vote. I could be interested in the Pro with no intentions of buying a Pre at any time. Maybe I haven't lost interest in palm but it is likely I'll choose another device. Maybe I must choose but I'm unsure.
    Last edited by pgh1969pa; 02/08/2009 at 02:37 PM.
  3.    #3  
    What would you like me to add to the poll?
  4. #4  
    Maybe I was being criptic. Are you just interested in 800w owners? Since the poll is in the general chat, are you looking for other input? It's your poll but I would be interested in hearing from all Palm owners about what they are thinking.

    1) WM Palm -> Pre
    2) Palm OS -> Pre
    3) WM Palm -> Pro
    4) Palm OS -> Pro
    5) Other mobile phone -> Pre
    6) Palm -> Other mobile phone
    7) I'm content with what I have
    8) Undecided at this time

    I'm considering the Pro but I don't have any interest in the Pre. I think it is a great device from what I've seen but there is no maybe's about getting one later. It's a definate no for me.
    Last edited by pgh1969pa; 02/08/2009 at 03:24 PM.
  5. #5  
    If this is for just the 800w owners, can we post it there as to not confuse the others?
  6. #6  
    Quote Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle View Post
    What would you like me to add to the poll?
    my choice would be.... getting the pre, but considering the STP to tied me over.

    i like to be optimist and think that the pre is going to be a device i would like to stick with, but will resort back to the STP if it doesn't work out.

    this is all coming from someone who does not currently have the 800w, so.....
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  7.    #7  
    Sorry for the confusion.
    The main thrust of this poll was to get an idea why there didn't seem to be much posting in the Pro section.

    Normally, when a Release is highly anticipated the threads would be booming with activity, something we see with the Pre but not the Pro.

    Why is that?
    Is it because people are moving right past the Pro for the Pre?
    Or do they not consider the Pro to be a big enough upgrade.

    This is a Sprint Treo Pro, so why aren't Sprint customers talking about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle View Post
    Aviator,
    You make a good point that these Pro threads aren't screaming with activity, something we should expect if the STP was a highly anticipated device. Something we see with the Pre.

    I would guess that Some reasons the STP isn't getting an Audience of notice could be:
    1. The Pre Stole the Thunder
    2. Many with Sprint may feel the 800 is still good enough for them.
    3. Palm may have lost a lot of Treo enthusiast do to a history of not wooing the public.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebag333 View Post
    I think you've pretty much hit it on the head, Berd.

    Being sandwiched between two anticipated phones (800w and Pre) makes it really hard to make a big splash, especially since the Pro isn't the same upgrade from the 800w as the 800w was to the 700wx.

    If you compare the coverage of the 800w to the Pro (look at WMExperts, forums, etc) there's almost no comparison. Not a ton of excitement about the Pro, which is a real shame because it could be a big winner for folks who want more of an iPhone style Treo.

    Personally, I think a lot of people are holding out for the Pre, especially with rumors of a 3/15 release date.
    Quote Originally Posted by kdbenoit View Post
    I have also noticed a trend. As of right now (check the time of my post) there are 34 viewers in the 800w forum, 37 in the 700w/wx, 81 in the Pre (which has not be released yet) and 24 in the Pro (of which some could be looking for info for the GTP). You can take this anyway you want...
    I put this in "Palm General Chat" because I don't think it would get the spectrum of audience it needs to have the poll better reflect Palm users plans.
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  8. #8  
    I have the 800w and I'll use it for now, but I'm getting the Pre the first day I can get my nerdy hands on it!

    idk what I'll do with the 800w then though, it's the redheaded step child of the Palm Family.
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  9. #9  
    I think the answer is really pretty easy...everyone wants to see what the Pre is all about.
    The Pro is an upgrade, but similar to what is already available.
    The Pre could be bigger than the I-Phone if Palm and Sprint pull it off properly.
    Even if you were initially excited about the Pro...the announcement of the Pre would have to make you want to see what it is all about before you buy the Pro...especially with the rumors swirling that it may be available within the next couple of months.
    Really...its pretty much of a no-brainer.
  10. #10  
    Well, I'm a 800w owner looking at choosing the Touch Pro or Treo Pro. There's no option for me so I'll voice my opinion instead.
  11.    #11  
    I know only 10 people have voted, but it is starting to reveal what Aviator suggests - The Treo Pro isn't getting much attention.

    Why?
    People are either sticking with their 800, or are going right past the Pro for the Pre.

    But honestly,
    I feel Palm had to do it, they couldn't hold off with the Pre, even if it meant a loss of interest for the Treo Pro.
    Just call me Berd.
  12. #12  
    IMHO they should have nixed the Pro, but back when they put it into development they had no way of knowing that the 800w was going to be delayed 6+ months.

    Had the 800w been released on schedule (Q3/4 2007) as a WM6 device, then the Pro would make a whole lot of sense--just over a year refresh, WM6.1 instead of 6.0, iPhone-like styling, larger internal storage, headphone jack, etc etc etc. It'd be a nice little refresh for the WM Treo's.

    Had the 800w been released back Q3/4 2007, there would have been no problem releasing the Pro Q4 2008. The IE6 upgrade is clearly a last minute change, and is slapped in place rather than cleanly integrated.

    And of course had the Pro been released Q4 2008, then there would have been up to 6 months between the Pro and Pre, spacing those devices out nicely.

    The 800w being delayed was really the killer for Palm. That disrupted any hope of a simple 6.0 -> 6.1 upgrade, and crunched the release schedule down too close together. Personally I believe that's also the reason the Pro got delayed (thanks to slapping IE6 on there).

    Had Palm skipped the CDMA Pro they would actually be in a better condition than they are now. No release conflicts between the Pro and Pre, less consumer confusion ("Wait, are you talking about the PrPrPro or the PrPrPre"), many of the early adopters would have picked up the 800w and then moved to the Pre (I'm seriously tempted).

    Moving from the 800w to the Pro? Why? Yeah, it's a slight hardware refresh, but is it worth switching as a $500 hardware refresh?
  13. #13  
    Well, I got my 800W in July 2008 and was thinking of going with the Pro until the Pre was introduced.

    From what I'm seeing on this forum, the Pro is really a better looking 800W while the Pre is Palm's iPhone competitor. So, for now, my interest is with the Pre.

    The only scenario I could see myself getting the Pro is if Sprint offerred it NOW while the Pre would be offerred several months down the road - or delay due to any legal action with Apple.
  14. #14  
    The Treo Pro has already been out for a good while. It's just a matter of it being released to Sprint that is not getting much buzz and I'm not surprised.
    • 800w owners who purchased that device through Sprint with discounts can't get another $150 off a new device till after 1 year from purchasing the 800w IF they are Sprint Premiere. And even then they won't get the additional $100+ rebate, which comes only after having a prior device for 22 months.
      So some people are not going to consider moving from the 800w till they are again eligible for all the discounts and rebates, or at least some triple digit amount off.
    • Anyone who wants to move from the 800w now and is willing to pay full price for something else (if they took the discount and rebate to get an 800w), might not desire to pay full price for the Sprint Treo Pro prior to the release of the Pre. I mean few are going to pay for both the Sprint Treo Pro and then pay for the Pre shortly afterward. So it would make sense that even someone wanting to move from the 800w to another Palm device would wait till both the Sprint Treo Pro and Pre are on the market and decide from there.


    It was very smart of Sprint to set the 800w for EOL and replace it with the Treo Pro.
    Last edited by ronbo2000; 02/09/2009 at 04:48 PM. Reason: GPS commentary belongs to the other thread relating to the GPS issue on the 800W
  15.    #15  
    Yea, the Pro is a great device - I have the GSM and love it.

    I think it's a timing issue.
    If the Pre wasn't stealing a good portion of the show, the STP would prolly be creating a bigger buzz.
  16. #16  
    Well even consider this web site forum. Once the Pre was announced, all other device forums here started getting way less comments.
  17. #17  
    I'm too invested in various WM apps at the moment and the 800w is a workhorse for me and I quite can't justify the upgrade costs for the Treo Pro at this time. I would love to upgrade to the Pre eventually but I'll have to wait and see the 3rd party application support for the platform first, particularly the med app support...
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  18. #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebag333 View Post
    Had Palm skipped the CDMA Pro they would actually be in a better condition than they are now.
    Nah, the 800w never sold much. It has so many bugs. It is subject to full refund from Palm with a simple call to the Better Business bureau due to false advertising on the broken GPS, and they need a proper WM device for the next 12 months
  19. #19  
    Quote Originally Posted by aero View Post
    Nah, the 800w never sold much. It has so many bugs. It is subject to full refund from Palm with a simple call to the Better Business bureau due to false advertising on the broken GPS, and they need a proper WM device for the next 12 months
    Can we please let this issue RIP? this has been discussed in enough places and there is no need to bring up this discussion everywhere.
    Your view is not a commonly shared one and posting it worded like this could be considered baiting.
    Please stop doing that and stay on topic.

    back on topic:
    I'd wait out and go for the pre (if it lives up to the expectations).
    While the pro is a nice device (I couldnt live without mine) it does have its limitations.. mainly driven by it's OS. Palm WebOs seems to be next gen so hopefully it will improve your user experience quite a bit.
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  20. #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT View Post
    Can we please let this issue RIP? this has been discussed in enough places and there is no need to bring up this discussion everywhere.
    Alrright I understand your point.

    But I was responding to an editorializing that had nothing to do with the topic that I considered baiting.

    Again, what devices has Palm offered a full refund of invoice price for besides the 800w? (keeping in mind that 100% of people who requested this got it.) You are a mod and have been around. is there another case like this?

    When people say the Pro is irrelevant I find that to be a baiting statement that should be challenged, and decidedly on topic of this poll which is 800w owners.
    Last edited by aero; 02/11/2009 at 09:36 PM.
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