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  1.    #1  
    Wow:

    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070125/20070125005650.html?.v=1

    Palm Brings Microsoft's Direct Push Technology to Palm OS Based Treo Smartphones
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    Not to shabby...but I'm happy with Chatter still
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    I'll be avoiding this like plague:

    "Offers security and central management - Security features for IT administrators include over-the-air password policy enforcement and remote wipe for lost or stolen devices."

    Chatter+Ex Plugin is good enough for me!!
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    Could be huge for Corporate palm users who has an IT department that only supports direct push.

    Weird though, it says "not available for Cingular".
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    Start creating your mail2web accounts now, lol. Hosted exchange is the bomb. Then on Monday, you go here: http://www.palm.com/easdownload

    In any case, it's a pretty good & free (finally) push alternative to Chatter. Plus Contacts/Calendar sync. That is weird, the Cingular restriction, considering they mention the 680 all over the place on the press release.
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    Hmmm... Wonder if it will sync the calendar as well as email?

    edit: Never mind - it looks like it will!
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    Quote Originally Posted by g-funkster View Post
    Start creating your mail2web accounts now, lol. Hosted exchange is the bomb. Then on Monday, you go here: http://www.palm.com/easdownload
    I created an account, but I can't figure out which service I need (for Push Exchange). Will the free " mail2web Live" suffice or do I need to buy a different service?
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    I'm a Mac user anyway, so I'm sticking with Chatter for email. There's no way I'm installing Versamail again either. Boo Versamail, Hoo-raaaay chatter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksmith80209 View Post
    I created an account, but I can't figure out which service I need (for Push Exchange). Will the free " mail2web Live" suffice or do I need to buy a different service?
    Mail2web live is enough. However, when you send mail you'll send as username@mail2web.com.

    A very reasonable option is the personal account @ $2.00 a month. It allows you to send as whatever plus I believe you can use it on regular Outlook 2003 on your desktop as well, which is a very nice benefit.
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    Im also wondering about the Cingular restriction. How is Cingular going to stop this, it uses normal http ports.
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    allow me to the first to say oh hell yes!

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    I wonder why it wouldn't work on a 650. Isn't it the same version of VersaMail 3.5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobileman View Post
    Weird though, it says "not available for Cingular".
    Carrot- Carrot 680- users-grab it, run, you can get it....

    Oh wait you have Cingy, not so fast there
    I thought(in US at least)T680 and Cingular were the same word.

    Oh well, Guess there's BB connect
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    A friend at work uses Activesync on his 700wx. The Exchange administrators push all kinds of password requirements (like making him enter the password everytime the Treo wakes up!). It's driving him CRAZY!

    I am so thankful of Chatter+Ex plugin (even though I don't have push because I am using the Cingular MediaNet).
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    As a user of both a Treo 750 and 680, I have a hard time understanding the demonization of ActiveSync/push on Windows Mobile and the lionization of its nearest Palm-based facsimile, Chatter.

    I have used the Windows push feature on my Pocket PC devices, and it has been nothing but a pleasant experience -- especially given that I'm a Mac user and that syncing is still an imperfect exercise even when using Missing Sync. With ActiveSync, I needn't worry about whether my Treo or Mac will freeze or act up during a USB sync -- it just does it wirelessly and instantly.

    Chatter, on the hand, I found to be a battery-draining resource hog that tended to slow down the Treo overall, and it had a cluttered and less appealing UI than it's much-maligned alternative, VersaMail. Though it's a good product, it reflects that it's written by a small company that (understandably) lacks the resources to make it as polished as it could be and should be.

    Not all Exchange admins foce password requirements and the like. Overall, I find the wireless sync aspect of Windows Mobile to be very Blackberry-esque, and something that a Palm-based alternative should aspire to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Ben View Post
    Not all Exchange admins foce password requirements and the like. Overall, I find the wireless sync aspect of Windows Mobile to be very Blackberry-esque, and something that a Palm-based alternative should aspire to.
    True. But for those folks who have to bear up with unreasonable password requirements, it can be a pain in the neck.

    I wanted to point this out, as I have seen no mention of this aspect of Activesync.

    For me, personally, spending $60 of my own $ on Chatter is worth it. I will likely spend more to sync my Calendar when Moxsi comes out with their Xchange-Sync product.

    I used to use the free Xpress Mail before. That product certainly fits the description (buggy, not updated etc.). You won't find too many people applying those descriptors to Chatter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobileman View Post
    Could be huge for Corporate palm users who has an IT department that only supports direct push.

    Weird though, it says "not available for Cingular".
    It says "Not YET available for Cingular ..".

    Treo 680 = Cingular. So maybe Cingular is still finishing up it's testing. Or debating whether they want to open up the ports to allow this. And whether to do that for the expensive PDAConnect or the cheaper MediaNet ..

    All speculations on my part, of course. I don't have any knowledge of what's going on at Cingular or Palm.
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    Sideshow - I totally agree. For those companies running Exchange 2003, EAS is a total paradigm shift, and will make the sales of devices that are competitive to Blackberry, much easier. This is great for Palm.
    I've been using EAS on my 700w for about a year now, and my IT guys are moving all 40 of our (formerly) Blackberry users off that server and on to EAS. They are going to use that hardware for another project, and say goodbye to all that $$ they were paying RIM.

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    I admire you having the guts to say what you said, Sideshow_Ben, in this forum which is frequented by a lot of Chatter fans.

    Being a loyal and happy Chatter user (since the days of 650 and now 700p), I do share a few observations with Sideshow_Ben. I think the new VersaMail update can help Marc (Chatter's author) evaluate the path he's trying to take Chatter in the future. Is Chatter trying to move to a corporate world? Or is it just targetting users who frequent forums like TreoCentral?

    Chatter is by far the best product I've used in my Treo. Quite frankly this is almost *the* reason for me to stay with Palm OS. Keep up the good work Marc and I'm looking forward to something better than the VM update from you, such as re-evaluating adding contact/calendar/etc sync back on your product roadmap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprasad View Post
    For me, personally, spending $60 of my own $ on Chatter is worth it. I will likely spend more to sync my Calendar when Moxsi comes out with their Xchange-Sync product.
    I don't mind spending more to see a fully integrated Chatter with Global Address Lookup, Calendar etc sync simply because Marc (Chatter author) has been a great guy with a superb product. But come to think more about it, why do I do this if VersaMail with the update can handle everything for 'free' and it's available now (sorry, should be Monday) if I only need to deal with my Exchange emails, calendar, contacts, etc? The only reason maybe the stability issue. But I personally haven't tried VersaMail 3.5 so I really can't compare.
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