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    Today, "alayam" newspaper said that the Treo 650 is banned from entering the EU.
    this is said due to the incompatability of the phone with the new RoHS law, which is related to minimizing hazerdous material. This law was effected July this year.
    The news paper says that PALM announced that it will stop all T650 shipments to the EU. It commented that EU users must wait until the end of the 2nd qtr to release a compatible version of the phone specially for EU customers.
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    I guess it's because of the high SAR levels. This also means that it is more profitable for Palm to redesign their product than just stop shipping Europe. Interesting...


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    This is old news. Its due to the lead content of the 650's circuit boards. They meant to have a replacement in place before the deadline, but it was delayed.

    Surur
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    Does anyone know what the difference in lead levels is from the EU and the US?
    Palm III-->Palm IIIxe-->Palm 505-->Samsung i300-->Treo 600-->PPC 6600-->Treo 650-->Treo 700wx-->BB Pearl--> BB Curve

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    Alot of medium format cameras are discontinuing for the same reason.
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    There's alreday 2 or 3 threads on this topic
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    I think that might be why surur said it was old news ;-)
    Palm III-->Palm IIIxe-->Palm 505-->Samsung i300-->Treo 600-->PPC 6600-->Treo 650-->Treo 700wx-->BB Pearl--> BB Curve

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    This must stop this injustice! Palm is the most insensitive company ever! How many more cell phone eating babies must we lose before we lower the inedible contents of our electronics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by t2gungho
    I think that might be why surur said it was old news ;-)
    I'm sure it was.....but reader might not have known by that comment that he / she could read up on it more by searching the threads and thot the clarification would be useful.
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    Europe is SUCH a PAIN in the ***. One stupid law after another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchDude
    Europe is SUCH a PAIN in the ***. One stupid law after another.
    As someone who actually lives here I'm quite glad that I'm protected from dangerous goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirk
    As someone who actually lives here I'm quite glad that I'm protected from dangerous goods.
    I grew up in Europe, so I know what I'm talking about. The constant bureaucracy. Internet taxes. VAT at ridiculous levels. And what's so dangerous about the Treo 650 anyway???
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchDude
    Europe is SUCH a PAIN in the ***. One stupid law after another.
    Excuse me they have alot longer vacation and better universal health care. I don't mind pay up the @ss for tax if I get 2 months off.
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    I work for myself. I take off whenever I feel like it. You're right about the health insurance. NOT actual health CARE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchDude
    I grew up in Europe, so I know what I'm talking about. The constant bureaucracy. Internet taxes. VAT at ridiculous levels. And what's so dangerous about the Treo 650 anyway???
    I've worked in the US, and run a business in the UK. Bureaucracy in the US is in many ways much worse. In Chicago, for example, one could have to pay taxes to many different authorities in the course of a week (state, school boards, etc, etc). In the UK we have 1 taxation authority for income taxes.

    Tax rates may be higher, but the payment of it is much simpler, and we do get far more from our government in return, as is our choice.

    And Internet Taxes?? Never heard of them...but I have heard that US threats to net neutrality may end up costing me more for my net access.

    Excessive lead levels are the problem with the 650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirk
    I've worked in the US, and run a business in the UK. Bureaucracy in the US is in many ways much worse. In Chicago, for example, one could have to pay taxes to many different authorities in the course of a week (state, school boards, etc, etc). In the UK we have 1 taxation authority for income taxes.

    Tax rates may be higher, but the payment of it is much simpler, and we do get far more from our government in return, as is our choice.

    And Internet Taxes?? Never heard of them...but I have heard that US threats to net neutrality may end up costing me more for my net access.

    Excessive lead levels are the problem with the 650.
    Well, let's agree to disagree. I am SO glad and grateful that I got the heck out of Europe and became a U.S. citizen. I LOVE my country.

    As for the lead problems with the Treo 650. How is it harmful? I talk on my beloved Treo every day. Can it be harmful for me as well? If so, how so? And what is the SAR level for the Treo 650, if anyone knows?
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    ^
    it probably woun't hurt people talking. But since this device is IN Europe, then when its life ends it will be DISPOSED of in Europe.
    Meaning the excessive lead level will end up in thier soil or water.
    To avoid this, they do not import what they don't need if its a hazard to the enviroment.
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    http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=33091
    A LEADING scientist claims that a huge rise in autism in the UK is because of old mobile phone batteries.
    Dr Richard Lathe, a molecular biologist, who specialises in research into autism and other brain disorders, says that metals found in the batteries are full of toxic metals which are not properly cleaned up.
    Autistic children have been shown to have problems getting rid of toxic metals from their bodies, Dr Lathe said.
    http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8...on-sar-report/
    Treo 650 Ranks High on SAR Report
    Posted By: Ryan on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:00:12 PM
    CNET has released a list of the top ten highest-radiation mobile phones in the US. The GSM version of the Palm Treo 650 ranks in the top 10 with a Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) of 1.51 W/kg. The FCC limit for public exposure from cellular telephones is a SAR level of 1.6 watts per kilogram.

    Surur
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbelt
    ^
    it probably woun't hurt people talking. But since this device is IN Europe, then when its life ends it will be DISPOSED of in Europe.
    Meaning the excessive lead level will end up in thier soil or water.
    To avoid this, they do not import what they don't need if its a hazard to the enviroment.
    I think this is the reasoning too..
    If you dont create/import thing with a high lead content then you dont have a problem with them down the line.. makes sense to me..

    But then again I allready have my 650 here
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirk
    And Internet Taxes?? Never heard of them...
    never heard of those either.. though there was some discussion on an email tax, but not sure if that was in the EU or US.. doesnt really matter since it was shot down pretty quickly since it made no sense..

    The thing that allways confuses me in the US is the salestax. The fact that they only add up the tax at the counter seems a bit odd to me..
    But so have all countries their own funny things...
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