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    Quote Originally Posted by mulcher
    We are the top 5% of Treo users here. Palm and others need to sell to the other 95%. If you loaded the phone with too many bells and whistles that make it either complex, incompatible, or batterylife too short, they lose the interest of the rest. Most non-geek Treo users, which is a fast growing segment, I see, still use it mostly as a phone, contact manager and calendar. They do a little web surfing, and a few have that POS Versamail working. They actually pay for ringtones from the carrier, and that is about it.

    If you look at most PC users, its the same way. Basic PC, AOL, and some $99 edition of MS Office.

    It is us power users that appreciate open architectures where we can bloat crap up for minor boosts in productivity and cool factor usually more than offset by being on the bleeding edge and hoping somebody doesn't notice you resetting your phone every hour or so
    So true. Every Treo user that I've EVER run into in person is about the farthest from a power user you could imagine. Just the other day this guy came up to me in a bar because he saw my Treo and asked if I had any good software on it. I didn't know where to begin! All he had was TCPMP(for porn), and he was checking his email via the web rather than using VersaFail or something else. He also didn't know he could use the 5-way for navigation(!?). I tried to drop some knowledge, but I think I overwhelmed him a little...
    Why are ringtones always such a big issue? Don't people realize that they're obnoxious!? And why the Nintendo 'Wii'? What th-!?
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    How hard would it have been to put BT 1.2(650) so people don't have so many headset problems? They didn't know most new headsets would be at least BT 1.2? You have to look ahead in technology. More memory should have been a given, for both the 650 and the 700w. How can they assume so many won't be adding software? And why did they assume no one would be putting newer high capacity cards in the 650? FAT16 is so YESTERDAY. These are just basic updated features they seem to have a problem with. How can you fall behind in just the basics?? This is what I'm trying to say.


    P.S. And remember Shannon, I decided not to get an iPod for those very reasons. Yes, they are cute and the sound is good. But Cowon and iRiver are so much better in terms of features.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    How hard would it have been to put BT 1.2(650) so people don't have so many headset problems? They didn't know most new headsets would be at least BT 1.2? You have to look ahead in technology. More memory should have been a given, for both the 650 and the 700w. How can they assume so many won't be adding software? And why did they assume no one would be putting newer high capacity cards in the 650? FAT16 is so YESTERDAY. These are just basic updated features they seem to have a problem with. How can you fall behind in just the basics?? This is what I'm trying to say.


    P.S. And remember Shannon, I decided not to get an iPod for those very reasons. Yes, they are cute and the sound is good. But Cowon and iRiver are so much better in terms of features.
    I agree completely, LT. I've been able to use bluetooth with my 650, but I've had my share of problems, no doubt about it. Your average user doesn't have memory problems though(in my experience anyway). It's us power users who have the problems. And Palm doesn't cater to us(unfortunately) - they cater to the lowest common denominator(well, that may not be ENTIRELY true). They guy I met at the bar the other day was shocked to see I had apps saved on my memory card(he actually didn't even know that was possible).

    And yes, I remember you mentioning that you hadn't picked up an iPod. That comment wasn't directed at you(even though I qouted you in said post). And not only are the iPod's competitors better in terms of features, they're usually less expensive too. The same could be said of the Treo. The iPod is considered the 'status quo' of MP3 players. The Treo is viewed the same way by the general public, regardless of being behind the competition in a lot of respects.
    Why are ringtones always such a big issue? Don't people realize that they're obnoxious!? And why the Nintendo 'Wii'? What th-!?
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