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  1. DMH
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    Hey all. I am thinking about buying a Treo 650 from Sprint. I was curious if I got the data service, would surfing the web have the same features I have on a regular computer (i.e. ability to hear sound, view java sites, streaming video, save pictures from web etc.)?

    Also, (sorry, 1 more question), is there a treo blog website to upload pictures and a daily journal?


    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by DMH; 11/22/2005 at 11:17 PM.
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    To answer your first question: No, not like your regular desktop or laptop computer. You cannot hear sound unless you just want streaming musing (via PTunes Deluxe), limited java support, some video stream support (like MobilTV), download JPEG pictures but subject to 2meg limit unless you use the downloader utility.

    I will leave the 2nd question to the bloggers.

    It does do a very useful job for quick short lookup of information like news, email, maps, some banking sites (not java heavy or graphics heavy), sports info, etc.
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    When I attempt to access the blazer browser, there is about a 2 minute delay. Is there a reason for this? This also happens when I receive an HTML email. Can anybody assist me with this.
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    sclare, what service do you subscribe to?
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    I use TextAmerica for blogging. There's also Blogger, LiveJournal, Xanga....and many others.
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    It is NOT like on a regular computer. I have a Treo 650 and a Windows smartphone. The Windows phones gets "real" internet. I mean it looks like the internet and operates like it. The Treo has a really screwed up text internet that is hard to read, and sometimes even the words are mispelled strangely. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE INTERNET AT ALL. And don't let anyone tell you there are third party browsers to use. They all suck and aren't the same as Internet Exploer type internet browser we are all used to. In fact there is a website which compares (and shows screen captures) for 4 new Treo browsers. It has an image of the "real" internet and then pics of the same pages from the 4 Treo browsers. They are NOTHING like the Internet. I like the Treo for other reasons, but if you really plan on getting the Internet DO NOT GET ONE EVER. DONT EVEN TOUCH ONE. IT MAY JINX YOUR INTERNET.
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    WTF are you talking about?

    Of course it is not like a "real computer". It is like a handheld computer with a 2"x2" screen.

    You are rambling on and on about the "real" internet. Is there a fake one made just for Treos?

    I do not use Internet Exploder. Does that mean I am seeing a fake internet now?

    If you are going to cite a website, provide the URL to enlighten us all.

    I browse the web all the time on my Treo. Is it the same experience as on my $2000 laptop. No. Is my browsing experience "a really screwed up text internet that is hard to read". No. Are the words misspelled "strangely" (????). Ummmm.....No.

    Having a Treo may "jinx" my internet? WTF does that mean?????

    Do us all a favor and sell your treo, then use the money to buy yourself a clue before you post here again.
    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
    - Albert Einstein
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    As a part time website builder, yes there is a mobile internet. But it's still the internet, it's just that text-only and WAP sites are made for mobiles so they can load faster. You're often redirected to those types of sites when on a mobile. They have the same basic content as the original HTML sites, but I think they're coded differently and have much less graphics. I am not experienced in building WAP sites, so I can't give more info. But yes, there is a "different" internet for mobile users many times. But look at it this way, how long do you want to wait for full graphic HTML pages to load? That eats up your data minutes and bandwidth. WAP sites actually do you a favor. They are built specifically for mobiles. Web designers are realizing that mobile viewers are growing. You should start seeing a lot more mobile versions of regular sites pop up on your mobile.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Lady Treo, you are far more patient than I...very kind of you to explain wap sites to this user.

    I have alse written many a web site, and am well aware of wap sites, but I simply have no patience for those who make dramatic generalizations without any attempt to get their facts straight....I know I should just ignore them, but....oh well.

    Have a nice night.
    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
    - Albert Einstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mipaul
    It is NOT like on a regular computer. I have a Treo 650 and a Windows smartphone. The Windows phones gets "real" internet. I mean it looks like the internet and operates like it. The Treo has a really screwed up text internet that is hard to read, and sometimes even the words are mispelled strangely. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE INTERNET AT ALL. And don't let anyone tell you there are third party browsers to use. They all suck and aren't the same as Internet Exploer type internet browser we are all used to. In fact there is a website which compares (and shows screen captures) for 4 new Treo browsers. It has an image of the "real" internet and then pics of the same pages from the 4 Treo browsers. They are NOTHING like the Internet. I like the Treo for other reasons, but if you really plan on getting the Internet DO NOT GET ONE EVER. DONT EVEN TOUCH ONE. IT MAY JINX YOUR INTERNET.
    Wow. Maybe this is more to your liking.
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    Remember: "Anyone that thinks the Treo should just work right out of the box, shouldn't own a Treo..."
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    Alright techy geeks. Aparently I am the only normal guy on this cite. I did not mean there is a "real" and "fake" internet. I merely meant that people who are thinking about buying a handheld need to understand that with the Treo the Internet will NOT IN ANY RESPECT look the same. One a Windows based device it WILL. Try it. Go on your Treo and Type in "yahoo.com." Plain and simple it comes up as a page of entirely text. On any Windows smartphone (like the Samsung i730) it comes up exactly as you see it on a regular computer - pictures and all. I like my Treo for other reasons, but dont defend something that plainly doesn't work right.

    Another UNDENIABLE problem is with the text on internet sites itself. Go to Washingtonpost.com for example. The text on the webpage is written over ITSELF. This is very strange but once again undeniable. On a Windows device it never happen - you just get the Internet as it looks to a REGULAR person using a REGULAR COMPUTER.

    Why oh why cant someone design a web browser for the Treo that looks like the internet!!! Like on a Windows smartphone. How hard can it be! Granted you would have to scroll to see the whole pagem, but at least it would make sense.
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    That is Yahoo's MOBILE WAP site you're looking at, like I explained. All the major sites, if they have sense, will have one because mobile browsing is seriously growing. I think Blazer is a WAP browser, so that's what you'll get through it, the WAP version. IE is an HTML browser, which is what you're talking about. If the WP site messed up in the WAP browser, the paper may not have a mobile version site.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Sprint
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    http://www.palmpower.com/issues/issu...er0902001.html

    Here it is. The comparison I referenced before. Clearly shows the Internet as it is shown with Internet Explorer (used on PC in every home in America AND ON ANY WINDOWS BASED SMART PHONE), then it shows 4 different "lovely" Treo browsers - which are funky versions. It doesn't show Blazer, but Blazer equally sucks. Treo is only good as a personal organizer. Windows smartphones will eventually wipe it out. Just take a look at the Motorola Q. Lighter than Treo, bigger screen, better Internet browser by a long shot, can open multiple apps at one time, and has better compatibility with home and work PCs. I am surprised people on this Treo site still debate the OS vs. Windows issue. It is what we call - "inevtiable!" I mean just the fact the Treo cant open two apps at the same time is emough to call it obsolete. Ha ha ha.
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    So why when I type in yahoo.com do I always get the WAP site. Cant I just get regualr Yahoo? Does it always default to WAP, even when I type "www.yahoo.com."
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    This is hilarious.

    "Internet Explorer" on the PC bears no relationship to "Pocket Internet Explorer", apart from name only. Try resizing IE on your PC to 320x320 pixels and post some screenshots. Better still, show some screenshots of PIE displaying web sites just like IE on the desktop. (Good luck)

    The linked article is undated, but the url would indicate it's from September 2002, more than three years ago and before the Treo 650 even existed! Browsers have improved since then. Some new ones like Opera Mini have been released.

    I've attached two screenshots, one from Opera mini, the other from IE/Win, of part of Yahoo's Finance page. There is little difference, except that the Opera Mini page was less than half the download of the IE one, and therefore that much cheaper, not to mention probably twice as quick to download.

    As for multitasking - the reason PCs need to multitask is the cost of starting new applications where it can take many seconds to get going. Most Palm apps (certainly the built-in ones) take a fraction of a second to start. The need to multitask simply isn't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    That is Yahoo's MOBILE WAP site you're looking at, like I explained. All the major sites, if they have sense, will have one because mobile browsing is seriously growing. I think Blazer is a WAP browser, so that's what you'll get through it, the WAP version. IE is an HTML browser, which is what you're talking about. If the WP site messed up in the WAP browser, the paper may not have a mobile version site.
    Hi L.T.,
    Blazer is NOT strictly a WAP browser. It works just fine for all sites that don't use Java - and it works with most sites that use Javascript (very different from Java).
    Shneor
    Pre 3 on T-Mobile, 32gb Touchpad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mipaul
    So why when I type in yahoo.com do I always get the WAP site. Cant I just get regualr Yahoo? Does it always default to WAP, even when I type "www.yahoo.com."
    Try going to "my.yahoo.com" and see what you get.
    Shneor
    Pre 3 on T-Mobile, 32gb Touchpad
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    Blazer handles WAP, but it's not a WAP browser. I had one of those on my Audiovox 8600 and the Treo is NOTHING like that. Actually, the fact that it's not a WAP-only browser is why you can't use the PayPal-mobile site (I think).

    Blazer gets you to regular webpages just fine. It's not a replacement or as much fun as desktop surfing, but it's really useful, when you're on the move and need to see a webpage, or even if you just want to read the Onion in the bathroom.
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    You've been given a clue about WAP versus HTML. Argue all you want, WAP is a BENEFIT.

    BTW, washingtonpost.com looks great to me. So much for "UNDENIABLE".

    And finally, easy on the name-calling, that is a forum no-no. And IE is NOT the end-all be-all browser. I NEVER use it and manage to surf the internet with great success. Go figure.
    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
    - Albert Einstein
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