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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by MihMih View Post
    Damn you Duarte !

    ICS has just type, supports all of the keys of my cheap bluetooth keyboard, can scroll in browser with the arrows, and has a 90 degrees rotated card view for multitasking (you can even flick to "whatever-android-does-to-close-an-app" to the right ...)

    I still love WebOS, but ... the end is nigh, Android is getting more user-friendly and usable with every release ...
    My biggest issue is that Google has their own services. Don't get me wrong, I use Gmail for my personal email address and use Google Apps for my domain for a professional email. But since Google has it's own Facebook competitor Google+, the People app in ICS doesn't allow Facebook sync? Since Google has Gtalk, I can't get all of my IM sources in the same place?

    Hell, I can't even get Gmail and Exchange email in the same app, or Gtalk and SMS in the same app. But having played with ICS a bit, it's a huge improvement over Gingerbread.
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    #42  
    Yeah you can - just use the standard email app. Gmail is a specialist app designed to work with Gmail only, it is no mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    Yeah you can - just use the standard email app. Gmail is a specialist app designed to work with Gmail only, it is no mystery.
    Huh, that's so simple I can't believe I never thought of that. Still, that's minor compared to the other complaints (the biggest one being Google+ integration at the expense of Facebook; nobody I know uses Google+).
  4. #44  
    I'm a strong believer in webOS, but have to admit that CM9 is a pretty nice package. Dual booting works smoothly, and Android boots much faster than webOS. There are a few Android apps that haven't made it to webOS yet, so CM9 provides a way to get at them when needed. It's an easy install (as was CM7), doesn't break webOS, and a great way to get a taste for Android. Still many loose ends with CM9, but it's certainly ready for a look-see.
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  5. #45  
    For those who bought apps from the app catalog, does that all stay intact with a dual-boot?
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  6. #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by techlover10 View Post
    For those who bought apps from the app catalog, does that all stay intact with a dual-boot?
    Yes. Earlier versions had issues with wiping the USB storage, but that's not an issue anymore.
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    My webOS account stays too, and if I doctor I can use it as before, correct? Also, I know it voids my warranty to install android but I was thinking that if I were to say need a speaker crack repair (I have already had one) and I doctored, would they know or care?
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  8. #48  
    From someone who is new to tablets, uses their tablet for basic surfing - e-reading - email -etc, and is not very tech savvy, I say that for anyone who is even remotely curious about this, just give it a try. It is the only way to see if it is for you or not, and just because you venture to see how Android may enhance your TP experience, does not mean you are a webOS traitor or detractor. I love webOS, but until it can offer me more of the things I want, I will turn to Android to fill in the gaps.

    Although the process of installing it was confusing for me at first, it became clearer after paying close attention to Rev's Youtube videos. He has also updated his install "for dummies" and explains things in great detail.

    For the tech savvy person, this whole thing will take about 15 minutes - give another 15 or so for those of us who have to keep pausing and rewinding the video(s) ! The install does not impact webOS at all, and can be removed quickly. I messed up my install late last night - tried to get some help with it on the Android forum - and after a while just figured out on my own what I had done wrong. Early this morning, I tried again and it got it done without a hitch.

    Try it - if it is not for you - uninstall it! If it is - keep it - and just love and brag about how versatile your TP is!
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    #49  
    So far I'm really liking it - leaving aside the alpha nature of the software and concentrating on the fundementals of ICS - it's a real step up from Gingerbread on a tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    So far I'm really liking it - leaving aside the alpha nature of the software and concentrating on the fundementals of ICS - it's a real step up from Gingerbread on a tablet.
    Indeed. Ignoring the clear problems and bugs, it is absolutely apparent that ICS is significantly nicer on a tablet. I can't wait for a more stable release. ICS feels extremely smooth, comfortable/intuitive, and (blasphemy) quite a bit like webOS. I feel shades of webOS all over it from the stack of recent programs to the launcher to the synergy options to the notifications. It feels REALLY nice. Even better once I cranked LCD density to 149.

    unfortunately, right now some of the bugs in this alpha are showstoppers for me. The keyboard for example keeps sticking periods in after random words while I try to touch-type, very annoying. I'm also getting fairly frequent random crashes-to-reboot. Once the quirks are worked out I feel ICS will be how my touchpad gets used almost 100% of the time. Its -that- good.
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    #51  
    Haven't had any of that - but I did a complete clean wipe.

    Their implemention of "just type" is very nice as well.
  12. #52  
    I am about to embark on the ICS CM9 Alpha0 journey, but had a few questions first. All the videos for installing etc are straight forward and look about as easy as it is to install Preware. The uninstall, should I need it, not so much.

    1) I have seen where people are using the ACMEUninstaller but is there a different way to do this?
    2) I noticed a Remove Android tool in Preware, so whats the difference.
    3) Also by removing in these methods, fix the partition that CM9 creates revert back? and from what I have heard you are still able to do a webOS doctor on the device and it will remove CM9 also and put the HP TP back to factory defaults etc?

    Thanks, just wanted some insight from the Pros before diving in. I need something to tinker with and this sounds great, but also dont want to totally blow my awesome, elegant webOS collectors device to bits.


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  13. #53  
    Quote Originally Posted by jhoff80 View Post
    But since Google has it's own Facebook competitor Google+, the People app in ICS doesn't allow Facebook sync? Since Google has Gtalk, I can't get all of my IM sources in the same place?
    I haven't played with ICS much, but does it break the Facebook contact sync that is built into the FB app? There is an option in the FB app settings for syncing contacts that puts them into your phone's contacts list, just wondering if that was broken by Google with ICS.

    Also, try Trillian or any of the other multi-IM apps if you want all your IM to be in the same place (not sure if it also incorporates SMS though).
  14. #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by jrstinkfish View Post
    I haven't played with ICS much, but does it break the Facebook contact sync that is built into the FB app? There is an option in the FB app settings for syncing contacts that puts them into your phone's contacts list, just wondering if that was broken by Google with ICS.
    It wasn't an ICS change that I know of:

    For Nexus S users who downloaded the Facebook app from Android Market, Facebook contacts will no longer appear to be integrated with the Android Contacts app. Since Facebook contacts cannot be exported from the device, the appearance of integration created a false sense of data portability. Facebook contact data will continue to appear within the Facebook app.
    http://www.androidguys.com/2011/02/2...ok-sync-nexus/

    Quote Originally Posted by jrstinkfish View Post
    Also, try Trillian or any of the other multi-IM apps if you want all your IM to be in the same place (not sure if it also incorporates SMS though).
    That's definitely an option, but my point is more that it's just not quite as elegant a solution as webOS' Synergy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    Haven't had any of that - but I did a complete clean wipe.

    Their implemention of "just type" is very nice as well.
    Went ahead and did a clean sweep and still have the occasional period being inserted when I touch type... I think its registering a double-space when I type... I need to figure out how to disable the double-tap period... On the plus side as far as I can tell there is no reboot issues now. Also fixed my charging issue by installing the fix from the thread over at rootzwiki.

    The issues seem to stem from my typing speed. I get rocking and rolling it starts placing periods all over the place. I type slower and it doesn't happen. I am a 100 plus wpm typist, so its fairly annoying have to slow down.
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    #56  
    Basically you are exceeding the expected user speed! :-D you are the flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    Basically you are exceeding the expected user speed! :-D you are the flash.

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    Cyanomod 7 3.5 had a similar issue actually - I typed so fast that it registered my keypresses as SLIDES - so it'd show the proper key I hit in the little popup, but it would end up actually typing only 1/4th of what I actually tapped.

    Very annoying.

    WebOS doesn't have this issue, I can type like a striped-*** ape on the webOS keyboard - same with the apple IOS keyboard and keyboards on other android tablets, so I know these issues must stem from porting bugs.

    I know I type faster than average, but it's just my natural pace and it feels highly wrong to have to slow it down . It means one of the biggest things that annoys me about todays tablets is that they are a HAIR too small - another inch or so would give me a full-size touch screen keyboard rather than the slightly abbreviated version we have now, and I would -love- that.

    On the plusside, my bluetooth keyboard is working fine - so I can live with this if worse comes to worse.
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  18. #58  
    Quote Originally Posted by DJeremyC View Post
    I am about to embark on the ICS CM9 Alpha0 journey, but had a few questions first. All the videos for installing etc are straight forward and look about as easy as it is to install Preware. The uninstall, should I need it, not so much.

    1) I have seen where people are using the ACMEUninstaller but is there a different way to do this?
    2) I noticed a Remove Android tool in Preware, so whats the difference.
    3) Also by removing in these methods, fix the partition that CM9 creates revert back? and from what I have heard you are still able to do a webOS doctor on the device and it will remove CM9 also and put the HP TP back to factory defaults etc?

    Thanks, just wanted some insight from the Pros before diving in. I need something to tinker with and this sounds great, but also dont want to totally blow my awesome, elegant webOS collectors device to bits.
    I used the ACMEuninstaller after I butchered my ICS install. Nothing in webOS was impacted, that I saw. Then I properly installed ICS. Rev also has a video on how to uninstall Android, and at the end of it, you can see that the only thing changed on his TP is the available space.
  19. #59  
    Quote Originally Posted by ncinerate View Post
    It feels REALLY nice. Even better once I cranked LCD density to 149.

    Yes.. how and where does one get to 'crank' LCD density? Being Android still, I can't find it yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutoidi View Post
    Yes.. how and where does one get to 'crank' LCD density? Being Android still, I can't find it yet!

    Actually it's not recommended to do so at this point - changing density ends up borking the whole google marketplace.

    If you -really- want to fiddle with it, you need to grab a build.prop editor and change the density from 160 to something more appealing .
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