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  1. #461  
    I'm in the same boat....2 years of webOS, you start accumulating apps. ~225 or so apps takes longer to download/install than I'd like. One of these days I'll start deleting them, but not today.
    Due to the cancellation of the penny, I no longer give 2 about anything. I may however, give a nickel
  2. #462  
    CM7.1 alpha is now out to download, has anyone here tried it yet ? I'd prefer to here a few peoples stories of installation/use of it before committing myself.
  3. #463  
    Has anybody tried the alpha yet ? all I can see on here is people talking about if they will or won't install it. Here are the install instructions:

    CM7 for TouchPad Alpha release : Instructions and information.
    CM7 Alpha 1 has been released for TouchPad. Unless you are really tech savvy do not try this.


    Here are the instructions from their page. Please read while I update the thread with more info.



    WHAT THIS DOES

    1. Automatically adjusts storage space for Cyanogenmod by shrinking the "media" partition on the TouchPad by 2GB.

    2. Automatically creates three new Cyanogenmod logical volumes (cm-system, cm-data, and cm-cache) on the Touchpad.

    3. Installs most "update...zip"-style files (such as "update-cm-7.1.0-RC1-tenderloin-signed.zip" or update-ClockworkMod.zip) onto the Touchpad. For those already familiar with Cyanogenmod, this is a file one might use with clockworkmod recovery.

    4. Changes the default action on the TouchPad to boot into Cyanogenmod rather than WebOS.Another tool/method (TBDTBDTBD) $may$ $be$ $then$ $used$ $to$ $switch$ $the$ $default$ $boot$ $from$ $one$ $operating$ $system$ $to$ $another$.$The$ $ACME$ $Installer$ $may$ $be$ $run$ $additional$ $times$ $to$ $install$ $subsequent$ &$quot$;$update$...$zip$&$quot$; $style$-$files$. $It$ $should$ $not$ $resize$ $the$ $media$, $nor$ $recreate$ $the$ $logical$ $volumes$ $if$ $they$ $already$ $exist$.


    WHAT YOU WILL NEED

    1. An HP TouchPad w/at least 2GB free on the "media" partition.


    2. A Linux, Mac, or Windows computer

    3. A USB cable

    4. The "novacom" program, installed on your computer. novacom is a program offered by HP for communicating from your computer to the TouchPad. It is available for Linux, Mac, and Windows.

    NOTE: IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO INSTALL ANYTHING BUT NOVACOM. Installing Java, Virtualbox, sample files, etc. is unnecessary. YOU DO NOT NEED TO INSTALL THE ENTIRE "SDK", only novacom. See Main Page - WebOS Internals for instructions. Or Google search for "novacom".

    Direct Sources:

    Linux (Ubuntu): https://developer.palm.com/index.php...t=page&id=1585 -- skip to step 5 and download novacom only.Mac: https://developer.palm.com/index.php...d=1545Windows: https://developer.palm.com/index.php...=page&id=16615.

    The ACME Installer files (on your computer.) These are the above-referenced "update...zip" "payload" files.For a first-time install, you will need at least two update files. The file names may vary slightly as new versions come out, but they should look basically like this: a. moboot_#.#.#.zip --- without this "moboot" bootloader file, you will not see the boot menu and will not have CyanogenMod selected as the default install. Moboot, based on "lk" (little kernel), is a project lead by jcsullins and tmzt who deserve much credit for this amazing program. Download latest from here: moboot - Mobile Open Bootloader for the HP Touchpad - Google Project Hosting b. update-cm-7.1-tenderloin-a1-fullofbugs.zip -- this file contains CyanogenMod itself. "tenderloin" is the development code name for the TouchPad.

    Cyanogenmod has a convention for naming its releases after these code names.Optionally, you may wish to have: c. update-ClockworkMod-#.#.#.zip -- this is the ClockworkMod "recovery" image. It is an emergency boot mode accessible from boot menu that can also be used for installing or updating CM. Although thUSING THE ACME INSTALLERTo install CM, first read the NOTICE at the end of this file. Understand that you are doing something highly experimental, and prepare yourself for the dire consequences of failure. Familiarize yourself with these instructions carefully before you even consider trying it.That said...

    INSTRUCTIONS

    1. Boot your TouchPad into WebOS.

    2. Connect your TouchPad to your computer with a USB cable. (Mac, Windows, or Linux work fine.)

    3. On WebOS, you should be notified that you are "Connected" via USB. Select "USB Drive" and then, if asked, select "OK" to confirm.

    4. A USB icon should appear on your screen, and the TouchPad WebOS volume should now be accessible on your computer. Depending on your OS, an icon for the HP WebOS volume may appear on your desktop.

    5. Using your computer, create a folder/directory on the HP WebOS device called "cminstall" in the first folder. Inside this folder, copy the "update...zip" files you wish to install. Minimally, you should include the update-moboot and update-cm files described above. Optionally you may add the update-ClockworkMod and any other update...zip files you wish to have installed.

    6. Unmount/Eject the TouchPad volume from your computer.

    7. Reboot the TouchPad. As it is booting, hold the volume-up key until a large white USB symbol appears.

    8. From the Terminal on your computer, navigate to the directory with the ACME Installer binary, and type the following command:$ novacom boot mem:// < ACMEInstallerIn the above example, $ represents the prompt.On Macintosh, the Terminal is accessible from Applications->Utilities->Terminal. Ubuntu and other Linux users may use the Terminal application. In future revisions of ACME installer, it may not be necessary to use the Terminal at all.

    9. Cross your fingers.

    10. If all works well, the "update...zip" file will automatically be installed and your TouchPad should boot into Cyanogenmod.

    WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK?

    1. Freak out.

    2. You'll have to go online for help. Do *NOT* bother the CM developers. It's not likely to be their fault. You probably screwed something up.

    3. Go to freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) and fill out the form. Under Channels put #cyanogenmod-touchpad and hopefully someone there will know what to do.

    4. Additionally, you can visit the forums at rootzwiki.com or xda-developers.com for assistance.

    AFTER THE INSTALLER RAN, I GOT A TRIANGULAR "WARNING" LOGO Something went wrong. Perhaps your filesystem(s) were corrupted. Go to: http://ws.hpwebos.com/webosdoctorGet/install HP's "WebOS Doctor" which should (hopefully) restore your system to the latest version of WebOS. Instructions for use are on that page.NOTICERunning and/or installing Cyanogenmod and/or any file discussed above may void your warranty, result in loss of data and/or the destruction of your device(s), and/or may have other unintended consequences. These instructions are to be followed entirely at your own risk. Cyanogenmod itself is presently considered of "alpha" quality and is in no way intended for everyday use and may not be fit for any purpose.

    AGAIN, YOU ARE ADVISED NOT TO RUN NOR INSTALL THIS OR ANY OTHER FILE OR PROGRAM DISCUSSED ABOVE. THERE IS ALWAYS A RISK OF "BRICKING" YOUR TOUCHPAD, LOSING YOUR WARRANTY, LOSING DATA, OR WORSE. By running and/or installing any software discussed above, you acknowledge that you understand the risks and agree to hold ONLY YOURSELF responsible for any and all consequences that may result. You also agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of any applicable licenses that may apply.Cyanogenmod and ACME Installer are Internet-community projects. Neither these projects nor their developers or contributors claim any official affiliation with Hewlett Packard or the TouchPad tablet.



    Again, don't do this folks !! (not yet).
    But, here is the link for installer : http://mirror.dal.tdrevolution.net/kmobs/ACMEInstaller
    CM7 : http://mirror.dal.tdrevolution.net/k...fullofbugs.zip
    Clockwork Recovery : http://mirror.dal.tdrevolution.net/k...rloin-1012.zip


    now somebody brave enough can give it a go and report back.... please !
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    #464  
    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHighwayman View Post
    CM7.1 alpha is now out to download, has anyone here tried it yet ? I'd prefer to here a few peoples stories of installation/use of it before committing myself.

    Just doing it now

    1) Read all of the instructions, they need editing and some bits aren't clear unless you read them all - you want those four things:


    - moboot_0.3.3.zip
    - update-cm-7.1.0-tenderloin-a1-fullofbugs.zip
    - update-cwm_tenderloin-1012.zip
    - gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip (you don't actually *need* this one but it's the google apps).


    2) Follow the instructions and you should be ok.
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    #465  
    I'm in the process of doing it now - will report back shortly (I was held up because I thought I'd installed novacomm but hadn't).

    Edit: installed - just doing first set-up.
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  6. #466  
    i literally haven't used my touchpad because of how awful webos is.. i'm an iOS guy, but android is so much better compared to webOS.
    ... And you know this because you have "Literally haven't used my touchpad".

    Try it, you might enjoy it.


    -- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
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    (1:39:33 PM) halfhalo: Android multitasking is like sticking your fingers into a blender
    GO OPEN WEBOS!
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    #467  
    I'm skipping the alpha, no way I'm getting another tablet like this for $150 if the worst happens.

    It has quirks but is very usable and I'd kick myself from now until Christmas.

    I'll be totally into a stable release though.

    Going to be an interesting few days of incident reports ...
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    #468  
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadVim View Post
    I'm skipping the alpha, no way I'm getting another tablet like this for $150 if the worst happens.

    It has quirks but is very usable and I'd kick myself from now until Christmas.

    I'll be totally into a stable release though.

    Going to be an interesting few days of incident reports ...
    Well I'm sure it will crash but my first thoughts are how fast this thing is....
  9. #469  
    cgk you should make a video of the whole process. (seeing as you seem to be the first to dive in head-first )
    Due to the cancellation of the penny, I no longer give 2 about anything. I may however, give a nickel
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  10. #470  
    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    For what I paid for it, I only consider the touchpad a toy so I'll take a crack - back in a bit....
    Oh right.. so if you'd paid $600 for it what would you be doing with it???

    They (tablets) are ALL 'toys' aren't they? Just that some are a heap better value.. and more FUN than others!

    I like toys!

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    #471  
    Quote Originally Posted by sledge007 View Post
    cgk you should make a video of the whole process. (seeing as you seem to be the first to dive in head-first )
    Maybe - just trying the dual-boot - works fine.

    The speed! Can't get over the speed!
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    @CGK, would you mind letting us know how much room you have for installing apps etc within the android side?
    Before i take a dip i would like to know if there is a way of determining how much storage the Android side gets, or does it just use this virtual sd card thing anyway?
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    #474  
    At the moment (It's alpha!) the market is filtering apps and there are other things that aren't working quite right but it's alpha but the main thing for me is that a) it's functional and b) it is simply night and day when compared to the speed of webOS (3.0.2) it's like having a new tablet.

    Just going to try the PDF performance.
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    #475  
    Quote Originally Posted by rick1963 View Post
    @CGK, would you mind letting us know how much room you have for installing apps etc within the android side?
    Before i take a dip i would like to know if there is a way of determining how much storage the Android side gets, or does it just use this virtual sd card thing anyway?
    Honestly I don't know how to work it out - I *think* it takes 2gb?
  15. #476  
    I installed it. Android sees that you have a 2gb internal memory with about 1.7gb available for apps. It also sees your /media partition from webos and uses it as an sdcard. So on my 32gb TP, I am seeing about 25gb free on the "sdcard." Hope that helps. It seems to be pretty stable so far. I have loaded Amazon appstore, doplhin hd browser, netflix, onlive viewer, root explorer so far. I have booted back into webos for now so I can get a good charge since from what I read it doesn't sleep very well and I am trying to charge from a pc usb port.

    Laters.
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    This will make me sad, esp if it is significantly faster than the next couple of webOS updates end up being

    -- Sent from my HP TouchPad using Communities
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    Whazaa! Messenger and node-wa, SynerGV 1 and 2 - Google Voice integration, XO - Subsonic Commander media streamer, AB:S Launcher
    (1:39:33 PM) halfhalo: Android multitasking is like sticking your fingers into a blender
    GO OPEN WEBOS!
    People asked me for a donate link for my non-catalog work, so here you are:
  17. #478  
    Thats it, i'm in then, thanks for the info guys going to give it a bash myself shortly
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    Thanks for taking the plunge, guys. I'm off on a fortnight's business trip tomorrow and don't want to risk bricking the Touchpad at this point (which my wife has fallen in love with and which is staying behind).

    Is the Android Market there? Can you install your existing apps easily, or do you have to sideload them in some way?
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    #480  
    Quote Originally Posted by lostnthenet View Post
    I installed it. Android sees that you have a 2gb internal memory with about 1.7gb available for apps. It also sees your /media partition from webos and uses it as an sdcard. So on my 32gb TP, I am seeing about 25gb free on the "sdcard." Hope that helps. It seems to be pretty stable so far. I have loaded Amazon appstore, doplhin hd browser, netflix, onlive viewer, root explorer so far. I have booted back into webos for now so I can get a good charge since from what I read it doesn't sleep very well and I am trying to charge from a pc usb port.

    Laters.
    how are you loading the apps ?

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