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Member: Gompers
at: 12:12 AM 06/30/2009
Originally Posted by Carioca_FL:
- An indicator light (the Pre would look really slick with a nice, discreet light near one of its corners. Of course, in all their wisdom, Palm would fail to have an option to disable it.

- The 5-way rocker. Why they didn't make the Pre's button a rolling ball like in the BB still amazes me. It would make navigation so much cleaner -you'd still have the option of either doing on screen gestures/touches or using the ball.

- Windows Me-style boot process. Have you EVER seen a slower phone booting up? Luckily, I've set myself to "reboot it" only on occasion, but still.

Let me add what I don't miss from ANY of my previous Treos:

- ugly (but functional) UI
- slow (granted, native apps like Calendar -a working in progress on the Pre- were wicked fast
I miss the rocker too, but I can understand why Palm didn't want to bring it along.
Having the rocker fundamentally changes how you can interact with various apps. It creates headaches for developers as well, thinking about how you are going to actually interact with their application.

I think it's something I'll get used to, in time, but I do miss the pad.

Things I miss?

To be honest, there aren't very many, and they are mostly minor.

Slingplayer/Kinoma/Media apps.
Obviously these things will come with time, and webos has MUCH better underpinnings for this sort of stuff.

The calendar was much better, on PalmOS IMO. I miss being able to see "No Time" events in the month view. I'd often block out whole days for trips that way. It's hard to see what's going on sometimes.

On that vein, having categories for events is nice too. I've sort of gotten around this by using different calendars for different things, but I still miss it.

I miss having the keyboard always available too. It's not a huge deal with the slider and all, and obviously the screen on the Pre is simply gorgeous compared to the 755, but I do miss it.

Battery life is a bit worse on the pre, but not THAT much worse.

Intelligolf (though I honestly haven't tried it in classic...I don't have enough apps to make it worth 30 bucks to me)

VPN connectivity (probably easily do-able)

Tethering - not a dealbreaker, but it's an important feature.

And the other big thing is customization.

Honestly, all the things I miss will be on their way, I'm sure.

The only thing I fear that might not be fixed anytime soon is signal issues. The pre just doesn't quite have the same coverage my 755 did (RSSI with the two sitting side by side is a good 10 points worse on the pre). It's not a dealbreaker, but it'd be nice to have the same coverage or better.

The phone form factor I miss the most was the Kyocera 7135. I loved the clamshell, and not having to worry about scratching the screen constantly. If the radios didn't frag themselves all the time in those things, that would be the phone I'd probably have carried longer than any other. Having analog coverage in the middle of nowhere was handy too.

Things I don't miss:

Having to carry around an extra GPS dongle to use tomtom

Tiny screen

Blazer - GOOD LORD do I not miss Blazer

Google Maps on the Treo was way worse than the current version on the pre, IMO. Just having your location available is huge.

Having a "dead" OS. For all intents and purposes, PalmOS has been dead for years now.

As a decade-long PalmOS smartphone user, the Pre is about 85% to where the Treo was in terms of functionality, but it contains a whole bunch of stuff that is vital moving forward that just didn't exist on PalmOS.

The most important thing, is that WebOS has a future.
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